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    That weight training program is unimaginative and will get stale fast. How many kids on your team? We have 40. We break the team up into 10 groups of 4 and create stations and lift for time followed by a plyometric superset. For example : dumb bell squats for 1 minute followed by 30 second box jumps. Cleans for 1 minute followed by tire flips or ski jumps etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gjfovf View Post
    Ok then back to the topic. Your coach's weight training program needs work.

    No presses of any kind?, No cleans?, No farmer's walk?, No renegade row?, No russian twists?, No lunges?, No pull-ups?, No dips?, No clean and push press?, No front squats?, No one legged dead lifts?, No super-sets doing plyometrics?

    Anything else?
    what are farmer's walk renegade row?, russian twists

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjfovf View Post
    That weight training program is unimaginative and will get stale fast. How many kids on your team? We have 40. We break the team up into 10 groups of 4 and create stations and lift for time followed by a plyometric superset. For example : dumb bell squats for 1 minute followed by 30 second box jumps. Cleans for 1 minute followed by tire flips or ski jumps etc...
    Keep in mind I mentioned just the weight training plan. I just want to know if the number of reps is just the wrong or right way to train a wrestler. I'm just used to the 5x5 program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestling_Prodigy View Post
    Keep in mind I mentioned just the weight training plan. I just want to know if the number of reps is just the wrong or right way to train a wrestler. I'm just used to the 5x5 program.
    Methinks you need to be more flexible in terms of how you think about weight training

    Weight training is not necessarily just the traditional static training methods. Box jumps, timed squats, kettlebells, resistence bands are all weight training.

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    As I mentioned before, the weight training program that your coach uses is lame. 5x5 is fine with barbells. Again, as I mentioned before, IMO, get kettlebell swing it, get up, snatch, clean and press, clean and front squat all for time. Wrestlers need practical/functional strength and endurance. That is how I train my guys and I have had tremendous success. In short, your coach isn't giving you what you need to get strong or in wrestling shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gjfovf View Post
    As I mentioned before, the weight training program that your coach uses is lame. 5x5 is fine with barbells. Again, as I mentioned before, IMO, get kettlebell swing it, get up, snatch, clean and press, clean and front squat all for time. Wrestlers need practical/functional strength and endurance. That is how I train my guys and I have had tremendous success. In short, your coach isn't giving you what you need to get strong or in wrestling shape.
    Oh okay. So when I'm in the weight training room should I just ignore his program and use 5x5?
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    Your coaches plan is completely lame and useless. He is giving you a bodybuilder workout. All you are going to do is gain more muscle. You are not going to get any stronger or better conditioned from this. If you are training with barbells and your main goal is to get stronger then train with heavy weight and low reps. I use a whole bunch of different methods. The 6x3, 5x5, 5x3, 3x5, and 8x2 are just a couple. Not only should you train with barbell weights, but must include calisthenics, bands and kettlebells. I include all those other 3 training methods into my training regimen. The only thing I lack in sometimes is kettlebells. You defintely need calisthenics for muscle endurance. Weights and bands for speed, power, and strength, and kettlebells for a combination of all three. Of course my workouts take forever when trying to include all of this, but the results and benefits are great. Plytometrics for power is a must. For example: box squats or box jumps. I don't like to do circuit training really. I don't really like to lift for time except for the exception of kettlebells; everything else is basically a certain amount of reps for a certain amount of sets. But with kettlebells, you should do like k/bell presses for 2 mintues straight, or k/bell swings for 2 minutes straight. Just some of my opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestling_Prodigy View Post
    Oh okay. So when I'm in the weight training room should I just ignore his program and use 5x5?
    Never disagree with the coach in front of the team. If you have a good relationship with him, meet with him and make some suggestions about the program that your team has. Also, have a proposal prepared to present to him as an alternative weight training plan. It can't hurt. Otherwise take ownership of your own training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mir20052 View Post
    The plan is not "ignorant." Its standard weight lifting procedure for building general muscle and strength. Getting larger muscles is not a pointless activity in itself. having more muscle means more muscle fibers pulling simultaneously, which means you can lift a larger weight.
    Quote Originally Posted by grecowrestler13 View Post
    Your coaches plan is completely lame and useless. He is giving you a bodybuilder workout. All you are going to do is gain more muscle. You are not going to get any stronger or better conditioned from this.
    Okay so is it a good thing as mir says or is it completely lame and useless as greco says? I have 2 completely opposite statements here.
    Quote Originally Posted by gjfovf View Post
    Never disagree with the coach in front of the team. If you have a good relationship with him, meet with him and make some suggestions about the program that your team has. Also, have a proposal prepared to present to him as an alternative weight training plan. It can't hurt. Otherwise take ownership of your own training.
    Okay, I might.
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