As far as your list: Dake (top 1-2), Ruth (top 10?), Taylor (top 20?), McD (no idea).
In terms of McD, he is down the list amongst just Hawkeyes alone. He's behind the likes of Zalesky, Davis, McIlravy, the Brands', the Banachs, and the Williams', etc.
-Hawkeye grad '07
That being said, one of the most impressive thing about Dake's four titles is that he did it without a redshirt,while doing it in four different weightclasses is less so.
Now dake also lost as a true sophomore so Cael still has a clear advantage in the losses category. But if we are comparing these two different guys from different weights and generations in a "losses" category it's fair to consider.
Maybe I'm selling them short, but I really can't see Marion, DSJ, Molinaro ever winning a world medal (or even the US open).
I think that whenever this debate comes up you have to define the criteria. Is international success taken into account or just college? What about HS success? If you just look at their college success you could make a case for Dake, if you factor in post college achievements then he's not on the list because he hasn't done anything.
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