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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    I think he coasts. In my mind he is probably the biggest favorite in the tournament, although you could make a case for Ruth.
    I think the only true shoo-in is Ruth. Haven't seen him truly tested by anyone and I think if he ever really needs a score, he can get it anytime.

    J.O. looks a little smaller to me than the other 49's, and in the finals the other guys will get to eat all day as well which will help their power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomWright25 View Post
    Personally I see JO winning in handily.
    Same

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    Didn't Jake Varner have the same questions about him early in his career?
    His freshman and sophomore year he did. He scored a lot more points once he moved up to 197 his junior year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldfart View Post
    I think the only true shoo-in is Ruth.
    Ruth's closest bout of the season came in the big ten final....Steinhaus had totally out of his game and even took him down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RYou View Post
    Ruth's closest bout of the season came in the big ten final....Steinhaus had totally out of his game and even took him down.

    Lofthouse took him down in Iowa City. Just sayin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RYou View Post
    Steinhaus had totally out of his game and even took him down.
    No. Sure didn't. Unless you count a mat return as a takedown like the "illegal fist to the back" guys.
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    I think Hamlin was his closest match, and that was only because
    1. Ruth was thinking major and looking to score so much, he forgot he still needed to defend
    2. Hamlin is a very good wrestler

    Steinhaus is good, but I don't think he has it to actually hang with Ruth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBloodLion View Post

    Steinhaus is good, but I don't think he has it to actually hang with Ruth.
    He dominated Ruth in escapes.
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    The gentleman from Virginia makes an excellent point. I did neglect to give Steinhaus full credit for that. My apologies.

    Unfortunately, he will have to start scoring 2 and 3 points escapes for that strategy to result in victory.

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    Ruth has 4 decisions all year he won 11-9 over Hamlin and 5-3 over Steinhaus for his two closest wins. He beat Bosak by 4 and Sheptok by 7. To make fun of Steinhaus' performance is pretty pathetic since it was one of 4 times all year Ruth didn't bonus point his opponent and was also his closest match of the year.
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