When I said public employees, I was refering to police and firefighters too. I don't believe I ever said anyone was keeping me in my place in society and keeping my wages low. I have a college degree and working on my second, so I do have education and opportunity that I enjoy. What I don't enjoy is being forced to pay a guaranteed retirement salary for anyone. It is a person's own responsibility to save for retirement, it is not my responsibility to pay for someone else's. And quit lumping yourself into all of this if you aren't receiving the benefits I am talking about. There is no reason for you to defend something you are not a part of. Calm down and read when I say who specifically I am talking about. It's OHIO AND OTHER STATES LIKE IT. Apparently that is not you.Now, let's go pick on some police officers and firefighters, shall we? Sounds like those folks, ALONE, are keeping you in your place in society, keeping your wages and benefits low. With education, you, too, can have your oppportunity to get on our gravy train and racket. NO ONE is stopping you, aside from your own resentment of those who like their jobs, and if you want to cry about how good we have it, NO ONE is stopping you.