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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    No, just most of them. Or at least those who have the courage to use their voices. Maybe when the the peaceful ones are afraid of having their tongues cut off or worse.

    Flame away, but if my daughter brought home a boy deeply-rooted in the Muslim faith I would be extremely concerned. I suspect I'm not alone.

    Try to look beyond the MSM stereotypes. I am sure if you had to travel out of the country you wouldn't appreciate others assuming things about you based upon what their media outlets spoon feed them. Remember, you reap what you sow...

    Why not figure out who the person is instead of being so sure of yourself in your pre-judgment? I don't think anyone likes that when it is done to them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by leglace View Post
    kr, your talking about imperialism. We are in the midst of a super-imperialism between the US, Europe, and Japan. China has joined the foray as of late. It is really based on capitalism and a global economy of sorts.

    But the point is that we are not alone in these imperialist ideals. But we cannot deny that we are practicing it, and 3rd world countries have a right to be ticked off.
    And they are...

    that is why I suggested people read CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HITMAN
    pretty much lays it all out for anyone to see....
    http://www.johnperkins.org/?page_id=52

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    Try to look beyond the MSM stereotypes. I am sure if you had to travel out of the country you wouldn't appreciate others assuming things about you based upon what their media outlets spoon feed them. Remember, you reap what you sow...

    Why not figure out who the person is instead of being so sure of yourself in your pre-judgment? I don't think anyone likes that when it is done to them...
    I actually travel out of the country a lot and to some 3rd world countries. I am stereotyped based on my skin color, every person with lite or white skin they figure as an American without even hearing the person speak. In addition there are many stereotypes in these countries based on being an American. The crazy part is they aren't as bad as a lot of people here in the states like to make them out to be and many of them actually put us in a better light than we are actually in. In a lot of these places they actually like Americans and our culture. It is usally the younger generation 30 and below that really look up to Americans. That being said i haven't been to every country and met every person and I know there are those out there that do not like Americans our our capitalistic ventures.

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    My only point is, that everyone is different. If you put people in a box then you get the same in return.

    In my travels I have found that when you can speak some of their language & know their customs, they are very happy to welcome you to their country, stereotypes or no.

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    Kr, your telling us what we are already know. Every individual is different. ok
    We are talking about terrorists, and nobody here said all muslims are terrorists.

    Flop did say he would be concerned if his daughter brought home a muslim boy (I am sure with full attire). He was honest enough to admit he will be flamed for it, but at the same time he was being honest. He is not alone. We all have preconceptions of what people are based on their appearance. Sorry.

    I see a chick with a tramp stamp, I am thinking that she has been around the block. I know she is an individual, but I don't know her from Adam. I am sure this sort of profiling is pretty accurate more often than not. Its human nature.

    We all know the majority of muslims are peace loving people. But I do not know whether there is deep rooted disdain for the Americanized culture. After all, most of them do not assimilate with our culture. They do not mind standing out and maintaining their culture. I am sure I would like most of them, but at the same time, I will always have that doubt.

    Why you say? Because I do not see enough of them condemn the actions of the bad. Maybe its the fault of the media, maybe its just fear of retribution. But I have no choice but to feel the way I do. many of you may disagree wholeheartedly. But it does not make anyone a better person than the other. Its human nature

    I do not feel that fundamental muslims are the enemy in any way. I just always have this feeling in my gut, they dislike something about my American culture ways. Call me paranoid. However, I am intelligent enough to know that there is only a blip of the population that are taken by jihadist motives to take action against "imperialist" America.
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    Kr, your telling us what we are already know.
    Hey the number of times you go over something, the more certain of it you become!

    The other point I was presenting in my previous LONGER post is that sometimes we do not know who the real enemy is.

    We are inflamed to dislike a particular enemy. Thus we will be more likely to go to war & kill them, though most moral codes on this planet, suggest that we don't kill one another. History has shown that evil men will manipulate the masses in order to put them in a more amendable frame of mind to killing off, with relish, one's own fellow man; Kaiser Wilhelm, Goebbels, MK Ultra, etc.

    The real enemy is the INSTIGATOR. If you read people like John Perkins or Robert Baer, (former 20 year CIA agent, whom was a consultant for SYRIANA) you know that instigation is stock & trade intell op. agents are paid to start trouble & keep it going.

    Follow the money.

    War is very good business for those who make weapons. Very bad for those who experience their functionality. Most of congress are invested in Oil, DOD contractors & Pharmaceuticals. Very little likelihood that peace will ever have a chance unless WE do something about it.

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    Excellent point. The masses are the sheep. They have been manipulated throughout history to do the dirty work. What are you gonna do?.
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    I kind of agree with almost everyone. Muslims in rural areas of backward ass countries are the ones usually doing the terrorism. This, I feel, is because they know of no other way. And for that I can not condemn them. I would shoot them, but they are so cut off from real society that I cannot blame them for what they do.

    The blame lies in the people, government, religion.... whatever it is that keeps them from knowledge. Anyone can say what ever about this or that "type" of freedom, but no one wants to be the one without it (freedom). Saddam Hussein kept many from freedom, yet maintained his. So did Hitler and any other dictator.

    Freedom is a good thing and everyone knows it. It's just sad that some people want to have theirs while taking away other's, but convincing them that it's the only way.

    As for "home grown" terrorists, I have no clue. Some people are just f---ed up and there is nothing you can do. Prisons are full of them. I cannot believe that entire countries are full of them.

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    Are they any different then some of the Yahoos in the Deep South or Midwest who are Aryans or KKK members? Ignorance is everywhere. Imagine if the world was told that everyone in a America was a racist bastard who ran Blacks & Asians outta town...a 100 years it might have been true. Heck maybe even 50.

    Hussein was PUT into POWER by the Reagan Administration despite his SOCIALIST leanings & Soviet ties. Study history. Iraq was not even a country until 80 years ago. The British invented it & then took Kuwait. Hussein simply was reclaiming what belonged to the Iraqi people in his mind.

    The Freedom that has been taken away over all these years Quinn is that freedom of the Muslim world. The US keeps the House of Saud in power just as long as the flow of oil keeps coming & the Saudis don't run another OPEC embargo of the 70s.

    Iran democratically elected a Prime Minister who a few years later was overthrown by the FIRST CIA led coup, (Operation Ajax, led my Teddy Roosevelt's grandson Kermit Roosevelt). They US led coup installed the Shah of Iran who then tortured & murdered his own people for the next 26 years.

    The Iranian people ALL know the Shah was a US backed puppet & his secret police, the SAVAK, (who were worse then the SS), committed American sanctioned terrorism upon all Persians who disagreed with him. People had their eyes gouged out, tongues cut out etc.

    John 8:7
    So when they continued asking Him, He lifted up Himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

    Maybe we as a people can try to honestly stand upon a moral high ground but the government we have elected over the past 60 years cannot.And if we elected it then we are the ones ultimately culpable.

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