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    The new breed of fighter is here and Jens Pulver is finding out firsthand. In 2008, the young fighter lives mixed martial arts. That wasn't the case earlier this decade. Fighters like Pulver had to work their craft part-time. But if you had a very skill you could be a dominate fighter. Pulver has always said no one can stand with him and strike at 145 lbs. Those days are gone. Most fighters possess solid if not very good striking skills. Leonard Garcia is one of that well-rounded new breed. He threw with Pulver from the get-go at WEC 36 and took out the MMA vet inside of 80 seconds.

    The end began when Garcia nailed Pulver with a left-right combo one minute into the fight. Then Garcia landed a right hand bomb over Pulver's ear. Little Evil stepped back, shook his head to clear the cobwebs and then retreated to the cage. Garcia pounced on Pulver, who was clearly out of it, landing 4-of-5 haymakers prompting referee Jorge Alonso to stop the fight.

    This loss is nothing to be embarrassed about and frankly it wasn't a huge upset. We saw signs of Pulver's decline against Urijah Faber. Faber hadn't been well-regarded as a striker before the fight but he is now. He stood toe-to-toe with Pulver for five rounds and consistently beat Pulver to the punch. Faber is the best featherweight in the world and the guy is always training. Fighting at 145, Faber is never heavier than 153. That also means he's adding to his game 12 months a year.

    Garcia, has had some legal troubles away from the cage but if he keeps his nose clean he's a solid threat in a future fight against Faber. He thinks he deserves the shot soon:

    "That fight says it all. I let actions speak louder than words. I say hell yeah"

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    Wow, a shocking night in the WEC. Pulver continues his downward trend--how much longer does he have as a contender? I love the guy but I'm not sure he has it anymore.

    Cerrone proves that his unblemished record is no fluke. An impressive win and some very impressive standup. Cerrone might be a legitimate elite contender.

    Filho shows just how uninterested he is in MMA right now. When he's right, a guy like Sonnen should be a very manageable foe. A very disappointing first loss for Filho.

    While I realize he was simply caught by Brown, who is an excellent and dangerous fighter in his own right, this proves my point that Faber isn't even the undisputed best 145, much less a top 5 or 10 P4P fighter in the world.

    Pretty exciting stuff.
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    I agree there are guys in the 145 and 155 pound weight classes that would likely beat faber.

    I think frankie edgar vs faber would be a great match
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    Pulver was foolishly pursuing him to aggressively and paid for it. While Faber was too willing to take foolish risks. Was too bad to see Faber go out like that, while Pulver (imo) was the best when fewer people did mma and those who did did it part time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DingoBrigade View Post
    While I realize he was simply caught by Brown, who is an excellent and dangerous fighter in his own right, this proves my point that Faber isn't even the undisputed best 145, much less a top 5 or 10 P4P fighter in the world.

    Pretty exciting stuff.
    I have always agreed with the not putting Faber int eh Top 5 or even the Top 10. I have never been overly impressed with some of his match-ups. Brown came ready and showed some great stuff.

    As far as Filho-Sonnen fight, I was very pleased, the weight thing, the fact that he does not seem to care about MMA, and the heart that Sonnen has proven over the years. Sonnen is such a down to earth fighter and has come along way overt he many years he has competed (I am bias toward him since he did setup my fisrt MMA fight years ago).

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    I was glad that Chael won but disappointed in his performance. Filho pretty much gave him that fight, barely engaging on the feet and trying every opportunity to just flop on his back and steal a submission. I don't understand why Chael was throwing pitty-pat punches the whole fight like he was practically shadow-boxing and stood over him for so long tapping him on the butt with his foot. He clearly won the fight but in large part because Filho did nothing more than show up.

    Hopefully Faber learns a lesson here and stops with the "cute" moves.

    And I feel bad for Jens and expected a better fight. I agree with Dingo that he may be done. He hasn't shown much since his return to UFC a few years ago - getting rocked in just about every fight (except the Cub fight which was over as soon as it started) and not displaying that devastating power he's had in the past. Lauzon knocked him out in 1 round, BJ toyed with him, Faber beat him at standup hurting him a few times along the way (and Faber is not the greatest standup guy), and now Garcia KOs him in 1 round.


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    Remember when Chael kept grabbing his foot and kicking him ever so softly in the hamstrings? Fight was pretty pathetic and Filho has fallen so far - he was a monster in Pride, super aggressive with takedowns and had a gnp to set up a submission. He beat the Pride GP champion quickly and likely would have been the champion without being injured. Now he doesn't even belong in the WEC - most be mental. He's so much heavier than he used to be and looked lost out there.
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    Chael never seemed to punch or kick him hard until that knee attempt at the end of the last round. It didn't even seem like a fight. The whole thing was very strange.

    Supposedly Filho has had personal issues over the last few months - although I don't know exactly what they are. He did say something about his dad nearly getting his leg amputated in a recent interview. Maybe his dad has been really sick or something like that?


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    Regarding Pulver, there isn't one memorable win since Penn in Jan. of 2002. There are a number of truly awful losses. I think Claudale is right--he benefitted from a more shallow, less cross-trained talent pool. His sprawl and brawl tactics were pretty tough to deal with back then, but it's not a difficult style to beat these days.

    Nothing against Cub Swanson, but if that's your best win in 6 1/2 years and you've lost in extremely disturbing fashion to Jason Maxwell and 7 other guys in the meantime....maybe it's time, Jens.

    He never recovered from the spiral he entered after leaving the UFC over a money beef.
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