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  1. You aren't standing up for anything yet- you are...

    You aren't standing up for anything yet- you are making excuses about why you don't have to learn or apply anything because there is a powerful force preventing you from succeeding, knowing that you...
  2. I agree entirely, even with your criticism of...

    I agree entirely, even with your criticism of capitalism because I agree that we haven't applied the system perfectly. That is part of the problem in that government has impeded the system sometimes...
  3. That's a choice you have, and that is what I...

    That's a choice you have, and that is what I teach in school. Keeping quiet when the boss is wrong honestly comes with positive and negative outcomes, and as long as you are choosing wether or not...
  4. That's exactly the point, when you look at it,...

    That's exactly the point, when you look at it, middle class and wealth values are no better than those of poverty- just different. But, with education you can allow people mobility and acknowledge...
  5. You can teach them what the values of others are...

    You can teach them what the values of others are so that they have a choice, and understand why they are being left out instead of accepting that the world is out to get them. At least if they know...
  6. Big, I teach in an alternative high school, so...

    Big,

    I teach in an alternative high school, so the individuals we are talking about are exactly who I work with everyday. My school is largely native american, but the skill set, perceptions, and...
  7. In my opinion it describes why the problem can't...

    In my opinion it describes why the problem can't be solved by communism (let me say I know nothing about communism). Her model lists the resources actually needed to progress in the system we do...
  8. If you have statistics that are cross-referenced...

    If you have statistics that are cross-referenced at least by income to show that they are really counting race and not class then I would be intrigued to see them. As far as black population not...
  9. Statistics require interpretation, and anybody...

    Statistics require interpretation, and anybody not of your same opinion could easily argue they are showing a propensity to prosecute unequally rather than a propensity to commit different types of...
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    No worries, just wanted to be one voice to start...

    No worries, just wanted to be one voice to start the demand, and I totally understand why it went the way of the title IX forum, even if it is important.
    BTW, I don't think it so much about where...
  11. Your education commentary is usually applied to...

    Your education commentary is usually applied to formal education which is only a smidgeon of the educational process I was talking about. Even then it may be useful to use the term nothing if you...
  12. when you use the term nothing in both of those...

    when you use the term nothing in both of those statements you are exagerating so greatly that you have taken all meaning away from your argument
  13. 1. People could be valued for there differences...

    1. People could be valued for there differences rather than viewing them as always negatives. Nature decided different was good and used evolution to produce those differences- why can't people see...
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    The Art of Coaching

    Why not have a forum focused on coaching and technique on here? This source of useful information is the only reason I still visit themat, and it lets me feel like the time I spend on the site has a...
  15. [QUOTE=ODH;3682] The best counter to this...

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    The best counter to this philosophy that I have ever heard was from John Gagliardi (sp?) football coach at St. John's in Minnesota:
    "They let horses drink, don't they?"
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  16. because they are hidden and not explicity taught,...

    because they are hidden and not explicity taught, and I actually should have called them hidden values instead of hidden rules. For example, which of these 3 character traits is most important-...
  17. I disagree that overarching government maintained...

    I disagree that overarching government maintained equality is the answer to the problem because I think it is an essential function and motivator of humans to attempt to earn their progeny an...
  18. Great topic, I am not quite 30, so I don't...

    Great topic,

    I am not quite 30, so I don't have the segregatory experiences near as much, but I like the reflective honesty being shared by the posters so far. In college I took a class about the...
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