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The reason there is no Howe is that Howe has not wrestled a match. These rankings are meant to give people an idea of who is not on Varsity but are wrestling well. If Howe had wrestled a match he...

He also has a loss to Onufer and finished behind him in Vegas. He moved up and Onufer moved down.

I he had either not loss to Onufer before and or out placed him at Vegas, he would have jumped...

He is on my short list. I like Bonin, this weekends tourney win was nice. But I want to see him against better competition.

End of last year he got beat bad by the 3 top 20 guys he did face.

I actually think if these young kids step up they could do some real damage this year. The big 10 is just nuts this year.

1. I am excatly the same way in real life as online for the most part.
2. Jake D. has significant wins at the College level. Camp does not.
3. Camp has not wrestlerd anyone significant in over 2...

Really?

So Camp has placed at the Midlands?

Please note that the pre-season rankings are just that, pre-season. Camp is in a rather deep weight and has not wrestled a significant opponent in over two years. So I think starting the year at 9 is...

So you see my dilemma :)

Just refresh every few seconds,

Brinzer says he is working on it, but for all I know he is playing chess against a 10 year old in India

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A few observations form the weekend.

125. Waldo was holding Sanders at bay, I kept saying to lost, wait for the 3rd period. Sanders just went to a whole new gear Waldo could not fathom. I agree...

Totally agree, maybe we will see some new faces rise to the top.

But this one is a nightmare to rank really

Hey guys on Rader, I somewhat agree but look who is below him (0) All-Americans and nobody that has yet to put it all together. By far the weakest weight in the country IMO.

Morrison could easily be the guy We would not be shocked

I sent this thread to Brinzer. He has some interesting points and info on Coaching and "Moves"

Teaching moves or rather that being the primary focus of modern coaching is interesting in itself.
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Couple of things. I lean towards Varner as well, but really see it as a toss up. The 4 finals would be what push me a little his direction. Both exceptional wrestlers so I do see a real good reason...

Very interesting. Well done Earl

Yes, as you can tell spelling is not my strong point :)

I wrestled Gibson, he was strong.

There are only two people I have wrestled or worked out with, where when the grabbed a hold of me I was like WTF....

Brock Lesnar and Krelin.

Those two had...

Iowa will be just fine. I do not see them getting a large class (#'s wise). But I think they will land some serious quality.

The weights I see them targeting (just an opinion and whats out there)...

Or a DUI? oh wait different place :)

I think Ortiz may end up the odd man out. I see Jake and Ness holding down 157 and 165 with Storley at 174.

I think thats accurate. one or the other. I see him red-shirting and then being the man at 174 after that.

Don;t think we get the Rausers, they may go the Greco way.

Two guys I would like to see them go after are Tyler Fraley (PA) and Nashon Garrnett (CA)

Jammen, Willie was pretty sure he was headed there as well. I have to wonder how much him training MMA with Lesnar had an impact.