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    Default Re: President commutes Libby's prison sentence

    Bush can pardon Libby but Bush cannot take away the fact that Libby was found guilty and that people know that and they know that Bush is a coward.

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    Who cares this entire situation will not effect Libby in the future. The prosecuter should have went after Chaney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    Who cares this entire situation will not effect Libby in the future. The prosecuter should have went after Chaney.
    People care. People know.

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    Like the AG firings, and numerous other things that have occurred during the Bush Administration (e.g., Guantanamo, invasion of Iraq, Cheney-oil exec secret meetings), it gives the impression that the Administration is beyond the law. It is not a good thing when the highest office in the land apparently ignores laws that interfere with its objectives while the rest of us are held with our feet to the fire. It diminishes public confidence in the executive as well as our judicial system. Libby's commutation is just another log on the fire.

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    "Like the AG firings"

    What exactly wrong was done re:the AG firings? I thought they served at the "pleasure" of the executive. A non-issue if there ever was one.

    "It diminishes public confidence in the executive as well as our judicial system."

    My confidence was diminished long ago.

    Of course my position is that Libby should never have been indicted due to it's being fruit of a poisonous tree. I haven't changed that position and consider everything since to be just "noise". Partisan noise.

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    Steve, the problem with the AG firings was the appearance that these occurred because the AG's in question weren't following the White House's wishes.

    The key issue is judicial independence. Although it is correct to say the AG's serve at the President's pleasure, it remains that they must be independent to make their own decisions in carrying out their duties. To show or suggest otherwise, is an indictment of the judicial system, and a message to the American people that they may not get fair treatment under the law.

    I saw Gonzales testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on C-Span. The Republican Senators were just as upset about this as the Democrats.

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    I'm having a hard time getting too worked up about this. The world is the same as it was a week ago. It's strangely comforting.

    I think the country is numb at this point and just riding out the last 564+ days. Not much from Bush and his crew would surprise me at this point.

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    Default Re: President commutes Libby's prison sentence

    "Like the AG firings, and numerous other things that have occurred during the Bush Administration (e.g., Guantanamo, invasion of Iraq, Cheney-oil exec secret meetings), it gives the impression that the Administration is beyond the law. It is not a good thing when the highest office in the land apparently ignores laws that interfere with its objectives while the rest of us are held with our feet to the fire. It diminishes public confidence in the executive as well as our judicial system. Libby's commutation is just another log on the fire" - matclone

    Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was your reaction to all of the pardons (even to terrorists) that Clinton doled out in return for a handsome donation to his library fund? You must have been fuming.

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    Default Re: President commutes Libby's prison sentence

    Are you suggesting Presidents should not have the pardon power or are you merely asserting that half the world (let's call it liberal so there won't be any confusion) is against every good thing known to mankind and you in particular?

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