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    I get rather astonished that with everything going on now, a good portion of the Republican Party spends a lot of time worrying about things like "bowing". No wonder they got their clocks cleaned in the last election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance174 View Post
    It is not clear that the world is pleased with him so far at least not in my eyes. The second part of your statement is pure bullshit.

    fear of those who are different than them? I am curious what do you mean by this....different how?

    do you think that they do understand but just disagree.


    Looks to mee like the strongly approve and strongly disapprove are pretty damn close.
    Now I know it is tempting to cherrypick the poll that best meets ones world view, but your picking this poll is no different than somebody trumpeting the ABC poll showing Obama at 69%. They are abberations. If you really want to get a feel for the trends go to fivethirtyeight (he nailed the last election) or realclearpolitics.
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    The Rassmussan Poll has a history of being one of the most accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgallan View Post
    I get rather astonished that with everything going on now, a good portion of the Republican Party spends a lot of time worrying about things like "bowing". No wonder they got their clocks cleaned in the last election.
    I could careless if he made a mistake and bowed. What irks me is the dishonest explaination. They lied. You are correct, the economy and sucking out baby brains is what really bothers me.

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    Not much except my immediate situation 'really' bothers me anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctc View Post
    The Rassmussan Poll has a history of being one of the most accurate.
    Check out this analysis from fivethirtyeight right before the election......

    Presidential (he only missed Indiana and not by much) -

    Our model projects that Obama will win all states won by John Kerry in 2004, in addition to Iowa, New Mexico, Colorado, Ohio, Virginia, Nevada, Florida and North Carolina, while narrowly losing Missouri and Indiana. These states total 353 electoral votes. Our official projection, which looks at these outcomes probabilistically -- for instance, assigns North Carolina's 15 electoral votes to Obama 59 percent of the time -- comes up with an incrementally more conservative projection of 348.6 electoral votes.

    We also project Obama to win the popular vote by 6.1 points; his lead is slightly larger than that in the polls now, but our model accounts for the fact that candidates with large leads in the polls typically underperform their numbers by a small margin on Election Day.


    And the Senate was dead on -

    What movement there has been over the past few days has mostly been in North Carolina and Kentucky. In the former race, Elizabeth Dole's "Godless" ad clearly seems to have backfired, and Kay Hagan has emerged with a 7-point lead in the latest polls from PPP and SurveyUSA. When coupled with the strong Democratic turnout in early voting, Dole will need a miracle to retain her seat.

    In Kentucky, on the other hand, polls from Rasmussen and SurveyUSA suggest Mitch McConnell standing a safe enough distance away from the brink, with leads of 7 and and 8 points, respectively.

    So that sets the following scene: Democrats will almost certainly pickup the Republican-held seats in Virginia, New Mexico, Alaska, Colorado and New Hampshire, although there is a remote upset possibility in the latter race, where Republicans were pleased with John Sununu's performance in his debates against Jeanne Shaheen. North Carolina and Oregon are also likely to send freshman democrats to the Senate Chamber.

    The Republicans are the significant favroites to hold onto their seats in Mississippi and Kentucky, although upsets remain possible there in the case of a Democratic wave. Georgia is a little trickier. Although all polling continues to show Jim Martin a few points behind Saxby Chambliss, Martin can earn a run-off by holding Chambliss under an outright majority of Georgia's votes. I would assign a 50 percent chance to a Chambliss win outright, a 40 percent chance to a run-off, and a 10 percent chance to a Martin win outright.

    Finally, in Minnesota, we are no closer to a resolution than we have been all year, with new polls from the Star Tribune and SurveyUSA showing Al Franken and Norm Coleman in the lead, respectively. Minnesota may be the race to watch today, possibly even exceeding the presidential contest.
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    They sure in hell nailed the Minnesota race...lol

    That thing just seems so full of crap....From what I have read it seems like both canadites are getting and losing votes they should get. sorry to take it off topic.

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    Much like Gore and Bush, it doesn't matter much who actually won it if all is said, it just comes to a point where you can only count, and fight, so many ways before it is a foregone conclusion. Franken 'won' it (whether he got the most votes or not will be debated for a long time) and will eventually be seated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctc View Post
    Oh come on spider. The official "Obama never bowed to the Saudi Dictator" was all over the place and aired by every network. If it was customary, Obama would have been bowed to too. You had to have seen it. It appears that your love affair with "The Messiah" has clouded your objectivity. Don't worry, it won't be long and he will have you "spreading your wealth". Your song and dance will soon change. Isn't it wonderful that your kids and grandkids will be paying excessively forever the debt now being rung up. It all irratates me to no end. You'll soon see the light.
    My point is that this is a non-issue that has been blown way out of proportion by people looking to criticize any little thing that they can find. Humility is an asset in diplomacy and I believe that he does indeed speak softly and carry a big stick. I'm not in love with Obama and didn't vote for him because I share your fears that he will unfairly spread my wealth, but now that he is our President, I applaud his efforts to bring together a divided nation and elevate our world image.
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