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    Default Re: You think you live in a freedom loving country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    When a person can make a better living in the US than they can in their own country, why is it a criminal act to humanity to allow them to?

    A person fine. But when you have these national policies to look for thousands and millions of special talent and needs people from other countries, that is criminal. Mass immmigration causes more sorrow than good for most immigrants. Lack of language, loss of identity. I know this happened to my parents big time.

    Like the provocateurs on the right, you make broad, sweeping generalizations about immigrants and call it (them) all criminal. These have little if anything to do with the realities that immigration policy has to deal with.

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    Right now North Korean people, Iranian people, Afghan people, Cuban people, Palestinian people, Iraqi people and people from many other countries are all suffering from American led wars and sanctions.

    You can disagree with certain regimes but why not treat all regimes and countries the same and let them decide what works and what doesn't?

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    Mass immmigration causes more sorrow than good for most immigrants

    That statement probably deserves is own thread.

    I disagree, unless there is data that shows otherwise. If people are free to come and go as they please, and they choose to stay, then overall it must be better for them here, right? I'm not saying that the US is the perfect place to live, but why would people stay if the grass is greener elsewhere?

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    Basic human needs sustain life but rarely bring happiness long term. America is spending billions in Iraq but Mexico is a much more immediate problem. This capitalism thing and thirst for oil is pretty crappy if you ask me.

    Mexicans are happy to put food on the table but their treatment like pigs doubtful makes them truly happy and gives them identity.

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    Gonzales became Attorney General in America so many Mexicans can become well educated rather than be forced to work like pigs on American farms.

    Flop, I hope you know Mexican government in collaboration with American government and businesses lures Mexicans by promising them good jobs in America. Mexicans often pay thousands of dollars to people that help them come to America. Then, they are stuck to work in farms and they can’t leave because they have to pay the debt back first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    Right now North Korean people, Iranian people, Afghan people, Cuban people, Palestinian people, Iraqi people and people from many other countries are all suffering from American led wars and sanctions.

    You can disagree with certain regimes but why not treat all regimes and countries the same and let them decide what works and what doesn't?
    Sanctions shouldn't bother you Big, if you think that countries should be completely autonomous, and can decide on what works and what doesn't work. Why would any of those countries need money from evil satan America?

    Sanctions are a double-edged sword for the US. When we give money to countries run by despots, the money usually doesn't filter down to the people who need it. When we stop giving money (or trade) to countries, then we are blamed for not helping a suffering population.

    By the way, how is it that the North Korean people are suffering because of the US? 99.9% of the suffering in No Korea is due to their Dear Leader.

    Also, countries that rejoiced, burning flags and generally acting like asses when the World Trade Center towers went down will probably be on the "sanctioned" list for some time. I don't have much heartache over that.

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    North Korea was ahead of South Korea for a long time in development until America sanctioned North Korea and poured investment into South Korea. Just look at the leader of UN right now. Enough said!

    Please will you stop with nonsense of corruption in other countries. America is corrupt beyond belief. Oil companies make record profits with the help of American government while Americans are forced to pay a lot of money for gas.

    American business with the help of American government employs slave labor in countries like China while Americans pay top dollars for Chinese goods.

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    Basic human needs sustain life but rarely bring happiness long term. America is spending billions in Iraq but Mexico is a much more immediate problem.

    If you control of the money, then how would you spend it to improve things in Mexico, long term. What would you spend it on so that you could get a long-term benefit to Mexico?

    This capitalism thing and thirst for oil is pretty crappy if you ask me.

    You seem to be becoming more unhappy as time goes by. We may need to buy loafers for you, because you should probably not be around shoe strings for a while.

    I agree that it would be great not to have to buy oil from the Middle East. The only thing that worries me is what would happen if the source of funds dried up in the Middle East. We're their best customer now, and they hate us. What happens when we stop buying their product?

    Mexicans are happy to put food on the table but their treatment like pigs doubtful makes them truly happy and gives them identity.

    I haven't seen them treated like pigs. I live in California, and just last week I drove from the SF area to Santa Barbara. I saw many farms where people were working, and while it looked like hard work, I wouldn't say that they were treated like pigs. I'm not trying to be elitist, but I think you're overstating the misery.

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    Default Re: You think you live in a freedom loving country?

    In the aftermath of the Korean War and throughout the 1960s and '70s, the country's state-controlled economy grew at a significant rate and, until the late 1970s, was considered to be stronger than that of the South.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea

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