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    I cant remember a time when religion has not played some role in sports. Almost always players thank God for their ability to play the game at any level and they pray for victory and a safe game. We always compare sports to life and how it teaches us life lessons. We all know how demanding sports are and coupled with school can be overwhelming to a student. If the school sees fit to offer a religious relief to those stresses then I say so be it. If comedian would volunteer to do it and the team wanted it then why not. A prostitute is a bit far simply because Coaches should be teaching safe sex and helping kids develope respect for all people especially women and I think that a team prostitute may give athletes an even more altered view as to how women should be treated.

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    Well I dont think that lib professors should be allowd to force their lib views on kids in classes that are mandatory for kids to recieve a degree

    Ugly, did you ever go to college, and, if so, did you ever have a professor "force" his or her's views on you? Is that what college is all about: forcing someone's views on you? If so, why don't we just abolish higher education altogether? Why don't we all just plug into the g-damned boob tube where we can be sure no one is forcing their ideas on us? Fair, accurate, unforced.

    I must have gone to school on a different planet or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    Well I dont think that lib professors should be allowd to force their lib views on kids in classes that are mandatory for kids to recieve a degree

    Ugly, did you ever go to college, and, if so, did you ever have a professor "force" his or her's views on you? Is that what college is all about: forcing someone's views on you? If so, why don't we just abolish higher education altogether? Why don't we all just plug into the g-damned boob tube where we can be sure no one is forcing their ideas on us? Fair, accurate, unforced.

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    It always bothers me when an athlete refers to God after a victory. First, it implies that God found his opponent less worthy, and second, it assumes that God would even care to exert an influence in a sporting event. I can understand praying for a safe game, but praying for a victory? Come on. And why do I never hear the loser claim how God is in some way responsible for his loss? (Okay, but Kerry McCoy is the exception)

    One could argue, and indeed you have, that religion is appropriately involved in every aspect of a person's life. This is true for a religious person, but not for everyone. Everyone needs a haircut from time to time, too. Should the team have a team barber? I'm sure that religious counselling is readily available on campus to everyone. There's no need to be redundant with a team chaplain.
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    I agree with Spider. Religious guidance can't be hard to find on campus, or just off campus. Some people consider all religions to be cults, and would prefer to remain religion-free while participating in an athletic activity.

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    The yankees do have a team barber. Spider I see what you are saying but the fact is whether we like it or not sports and religion are coupled together in some fashion. I believe that since this position has become volunteer then I have no problem with it unless like I said before the actual player s have a problem with it. Other than that I truely dont believe it is anyone's business.

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    For me, what all of this comes down to (not just the team chaplain issue) is that religion is, or should be, a personal thing to be shared with family and fellow congregants. I'm honestly happy for anyone whose life is enriched by their spirituality, but I feel that it is an intrusion when I, as a non-believer, must be exposed to it. It's a little like sex - a beautiful part of life which you should enjoy, but keep it to yourself.
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    Ugly, I read the posts.

    Words have meaning. Your comment was just another in a line of anti-intellectual statements about college students being "forced" "indoctrinated" or "injected" with a certain point of view. If that was not your experience, I ask you to remember something you learned in college and leave the rhetoric to advertisers.

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    Default Re: Faculty panel recommends 'life skills' aide for Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    I believe that since this position has become volunteer then I have no problem with it unless like I said before the actual player s have a problem with it. Other than that I truely dont believe it is anyone's business.

    I don't think that the volunteer/salaried aspect of this makes any difference, and I agree with you that if everyone on the team is happy with it, it's no one else's business. But what if someone on the team feels like I do? Should he quit the team, suck it up and deal, or does he have a right to a be on a team free from religious influence? (note: I'm only referring to a public institution).
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