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Old 06-21-2007, 10:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Michael Moore's new film (about health care) is coming out this week or next. I just thought I'd get the topic rolling before talk radio fans are handed (or should we say pummeled with) their talking points (which then circulate into the general population), including the fact he is fat and that any suggestion of national health care is the devil's work.

I saw him interviewed the other night by Amy Goodman. I get the impression we'll see some of the same techniques he's used in past films. Whatever you think of the filmmaker, I think it is a good topic for national discussion so welcome the entry.

If I see the film, I'll try to make some comments about it.

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Moore should have visited Leningrad's health clinics in the mid 80s. Top notch care. Besides, if you wrestled at a club you had free complete check ups from 12 different doctors every 6 months.

In Leningrad they had these clinics that were the size of a public school in every region of the city. They had all the doctors and you could go see them any time you were sick and wait no longer than 45 minutes.
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Old 06-22-2007, 07:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I am a believer in social health care if it is done the right way and the level of care does not decrease. But I think anything from Micheal Moore is crap. He is the most one sided person I have seen beside Rush Limbaugh or Shawn Hannity. He takes an issue and shows the worst possible aspects of it and exploits it, he never gives a fair and balanced account of anything.
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Add Moore's film to the fact that cancer can be cured for basically pennies, but the estalishment is dodging the issue, the food they feed us, etc, and it's pretty clear that we're not exactly wanted healthy or hardly even alive for that matter. Welcome to the most selfish system that could possibly exist, and also be justified by those within it.
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Add Moore's film to the fact that cancer can be cured for basically pennies, but the estalishment is dodging the issue, the food they feed us, etc, and it's pretty clear that we're not exactly wanted healthy or hardly even alive for that matter. Welcome to the most selfish system that could possibly exist, and also be justified by those within it.

Do you really believe this? I have no love for insurance companies, whose existence is solely money driven, but I do not believe that the medical establishment has anything other than the health and welfare of the public as its primary goal.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,273875,00.html

Interesting review from Fox News.
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Wow that was a very interesting review by Fox. I will probably watch the movie now and if it is as they say it is then I will probably enjoy it.
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If this film exposes the abuses of the insurance companies, which I have experienced first hand, I, too, may reevaluate my opinion of Michael Moore. If it bashes the medical profession as a whole (not just some anecdotal evidence), a few grains of salt may need to be served up with it.
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It will be interesting to see if he touches on conspiracy theories about insurance companies and Dr.'s. Like they can cure cancer or aids but dont want to because of the money those diseases make for them. It is like the theory that there is a way to make a car run on salt water but they cant build it because the oil companies own the patent on it.

I personally dont think Dr.'s withold cures for financial gain but you could convince me fairly easily that insurance companies and drug companies do.
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I personally dont think Dr.'s withold cures for financial gain but you could convince me fairly easily that insurance companies and drug companies do.
I don't see how supressing curative technologies would benefit insurance companies, and I don't know enough about drug companies to comment, but basically, I agree.
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