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    I agree Lott can't have it both ways. However, I think he's saying talk radio is driving the debate (a point with which I agree) rather than the people driving the debate (as they would have us believe).

    I agree radio can and should be a voice for the people. But one of my criticisms of talk radio is that this is not where they're coming from. I believe they're pursuing a commercial interest above all else, not just acting as a conduit for opinions. I believe they are actively engaged in creating demand for their product more than responding to a particular need for a voice. I believe they are not selling conservatism, but rather division (it sells).

    Traveling this past weekend, I listened to a fair amount of "talk", including Air America, the self-proclaimed "progressive" view (when I got close to Denver/Boulder--the only place you can hear it). They have a guy named Ed Schultz who sounds exactly like Rush Limbaugh. Same music at the front of the show, same tone of voice, same exaggerated statements about everything. Different villains (Bush/Cheney) but common to talk radio there are villains. This suggest to me that talk radio is merely a product, and it operates on a formula.

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    I also heard a fair amount of ESPN, and it reminded me how political and crafted their program is. Some bozo on Sunday morning proclaimed himself a "libertarian" (complete with a definition--"for freedom"), then proceeded to say how he lets his infant son run around without anything on, and how he dropped a "steamer" (a turd) on the floor the other day (and repeats this later in case you missed the joke the first time). He then portrayed the boy as rebellious because he throws things, and said he was going to enroll him in truck driving school and not college when he gets older. Oh, and the guy is divorced. It seems to me the whole presentation was a frank appeal to a certain demographic (perhaps the same one as the major beer companies appeal to).

    I had the distinct impression from local and national sports radio this weekend that the "wrong" guy won the U.S. Open golf tournament. I wouldn't mention this except they kept hammering this point. The guy (I don't know his name) is a nobody and didn't deserve to win. Tiger should have won. At one point, one DJ suggested that the public would pay more attention to a tournament in which only Woods, Mickelson, Daly, and someone else were participating. I'm sure that would be fine with ESPN.

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    Clone I listen to ESPN for the entertainment value and there are some show hosts that I cant stand but in the end it is only sports and they imo have no responsability to the public to be anything more than sports reporters.

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    I like talk radio weighing in on different issues (and I don't even listen to it). What it does is gives many different opinions and voices on the issue. Everyone is much more informed. Trent Lott complaining (or anyone else doing it) is a "tall tale " sign that things are not in our best interests and that government wants to hastily rush something through that is not the will of the people. Washington needs to secure the border 100% pronto - then go from there; but, fully secure it first.

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    "Talk radio is running America. We have to deal with that problem."--Trent Lott

    This, to me, is another example of a non-existent problem that a politician is willing to "solve" for the people. Talk radio is no different than most editorial pages. The NY Times presents one point of view, and the Wall Street Journal usually presents the opposite point of view. If you want to talk about magazines, The Nation presents an opposite point of view from National Review. None of those media outlets are under obligation to provide a balanced debate, so why should talk-radio be?

    Arrogant, busy body politicians need to stay out of free-speech issues. As a Republican, Lott has a lot more to worry about than this.

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    This, to me, is another example of a non-existent problem that a politician is willing to "solve" for the people.

    What do you suppose Lott's purpose was in making his statement--to subvert the will of the people? What solution did he propose, if any?

    Talk radio is no different than most editorial pages.

    There's a huge difference--unless, I suppose, one views all modes of communication as being inherently "liberal" or "conversative". Maybe we should start classifying all our neighbors, co-workers, and family members too. For example, if Uncle George is "liberal", we know anything he says is suspect, but if Bob Reynolds down the block is "conservative", well, anything he says is solid.

    The difference is not unlike listening to a lecture (or church sermon) v. watching an infomercial.

    One might ask, what's the difference between reading National Review and listening to Sean Hannity? Any? None? Why?
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    I like talk radio weighing in on different issues (and I don't even listen to it). What it does is gives many different opinions and voices on the issue.

    From what I hear, there is generally only one opinion and one voice on talk radio. That is one of its prime characteristics.

    Everyone is much more informed.

    Yeah, like being informed about the qualities of Bowflex or Chef's Magic Blender.

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    Talk radio is no different than most editorial pages.

    There's a huge difference--unless, I suppose, one views all modes of communication as being inherently "liberal" or "conversative". Maybe we should start classifying all our neighbors, co-workers, and family members too. For example, if Uncle George is "liberal", we know anything he says is suspect, but if Bob Reynolds down the block is "conservative", well, anything he says is solid.

    The difference is not unlike listening to a lecture (or church sermon) v. watching an infomercial.

    One might ask, what's the difference between reading National Review and listening to Sean Hannity? Any? None? Why?[/QUOTE]

    What is the "huge difference" between talk radio and editorial pages? They both strongly espouse a point of view, while not necessarily fleshing out alternatives. Label it however you want, it still is a point of view.

    National Review presents a (mostly) conservative view, but Hannity usually presents some mix of theocracy, jingoism, and arrogance. Hannity is like a cartoon character of the right, similar to someone like Alterman on the left. Blowhards, yes. Dangerous, no.

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    What is the "huge difference" between talk radio and editorial pages? They both strongly espouse a point of view, while not necessarily fleshing out alternatives. Label it however you want, it still is a point of view.

    There's a difference between advocating a certain view, and selling a single view--hence my comparison between a lecture and an informercial. Editorial page editors have to tell their view without exaggeration and misinformation--because they have an audience of diverse viewpoints and they need the respect of their peers and leaders in the community if they are to have any relevance. Talk radio, on the other hand, feels no such compunction, and is under no such restriction. They are appealing distinctly to a narrow audience.

    It's amazing to me that people recognize (or at least are on guard) when a used car salesman is exaggerating and giving them misinformation (and they act accordingly), but when it comes to talk radio, they are ready to swallow the most incredible bullshit, hook, line, and sinker. The reason they do this, I suppose, is that talk radio (and I generalize) is telling them what they want to hear. The problem is, it's always low brow.

    National Review presents a (mostly) conservative view, but Hannity usually presents some mix of theocracy, jingoism, and arrogance. Hannity is like a cartoon character of the right, similar to someone like Alterman on the left. Blowhards, yes. Dangerous, no.

    Well, there you go. You found some real differences. To the contrary, I think it's dangerous. Division (which talk radio fosters) is certainly not healthy for our communities. And this gets right back to Lott's comment: how do we set national policy? Do we let the voice of the mob rule? If so, it seems clear we would never have seen any Civil Rights legislation in this country.

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