UGLY

I have recently heard a very interesting theory about the Ark and I will share it with all of you to get your opinion.

The Ark in Genisis is a symbol of the coming Christ. Not that the people of the day would have known what it was but that when we read the bible we can make the parallel between Christ and the Ark. The ark was the vessell that saved Noah and his family from death much like Jesus Christ is the vessell that saves those who believe from eternal damnation.

It makes sense if you have read the bible but is it a stretch? Or is it inline with what God wants us to get from the bible?

Spider

I think that most of the Bible, or at least the Old Testament with which I'm more familiar, is a mixture of fables meant to teach lessons and historical reporting, much of which was distorted and embellished as it was passed down orally before it was finally written. My take on whether the Bible was written by God is that belief in God inspired man to write it. Any work of art, poetry, or inspired creation can be said to be created by God with man as His instrument. This, of course, can never be proven or disproven because it is a matter of faith.

I see the analogy between the ark and Christ, but I think it's a strtetch . . . or maybe two unrelated stories, both of which are expressions of man's hope for divine salvation.

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UGLY

Good points Spider like I said this is not my theory but one that heard. I appreciate the response I know that you dont believe and I thought it was an excelent post.

If you are a believer and look at it from the stadpoint of the bible being divinely inspired could God have put in these parallels so that we leanr to look to God for salvation instead of ourselves?

quick_single

I would say it's a stretch, but it will depend upon who you ask. Any Jewish person will tell you to get lost, since they don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah. A Christian might make that connection. I still think it's taking two unrelated things and desperately trying to make a connection. To each his own I suppose.

That said, any sane person will tell you to get lost since the story of Noah's Ark is a fable and not meant to be taken literally.

I LOVE the story of Noah's Ark, but I also really enjoy debuking the literal interperation of the story, which I did in great detail on the other froum about 3 years ago.

BTW really good thoughts Spider.

RYou

So what is being inferred is that The Ark never ended up in the Urartian mountains as is written. if it but an analogy, the why a such a detailed history that specifies where the arc landed? Why the Urartian mountains and not some other locale closer to the Middle East? If Moses truly extsted and Moses was the one to write of the great flood and where the ark landed, then wouldn't the analogy be an erroneous assessment?

quick_single

Not saying an Ark of some sort didn't exist, just that the story was greatly exaggerated.

Also the Urartian mountains aren't that far away from the Middle East. It's not like they said it landed in Italy. It could simply have been a place they knew of.

UGLY

I think that you can make the connection if you look at the bible as written by God. But it is hard to just make the connection which is why it seems to be a stretch to me also but one that makes some sense.

quick_single

The Bible wasn't written by God and anyone who thinks that needs their head examined for holes. It written by fallible men who were inspired by God. Nothing more, nothing less.

If it were written by God then why was there a committee who voted on what to keep and what to omit from the New Testament?

matclone

QS, I tend to agree with you, but the counter argument to your point is probably that the men who wrote the Bible were not infallible--because they were inspired by God, i.e, they merely served as conduits for God's word.

quick_single

Yes but humans by definition are fallible, otherwise they are not human.

What I mean is that unless God is taking their hand and actually writing the Word down, something's going to get f*cked up in the process, which is clear by simply reading the Bible.

And by saying that God wrote it is humanizing this Deity, which is a complete joke.