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    Quote Originally Posted by Black-n-Red View Post
    Ok, let me make sure I have this straight. When I point out that you don't have a clue what you are talking about regarding defense spending, your defense is to ask some asinine questions that aren't even tangent to the conversation.

    Then, because I don't know the answer to said-asinine questions, that somehow makes you the "victor" here.

    Should I just call you "Victor" from now on? Or would your prefer "Albert"....seeing as how you are such a genius.....
    I would prefer Albert if you don't mind.

    It is not an asinine question but a question to get to a true apple to apple comparision.

  2. #29

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    An example would be in the Corporate world. One company spends 1.5 million a year in training and another spends 200k a year in training expenses. One is done over seas and one is done here in the US you can't look at the numbers and say well one company is spending more than the other so it should cut expenses.

  3. #30

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    What the hell are you talking about? Are you trying to say that defense contractors in the U.S have higher costs with their labor force so that's why weapons cost more?
    You really are a simpleton. Our defense contractors aren't facing competition from other countries because our technology is so superior to other countries, there aren't many companies that can make the weapons, planes, missiles, etc. that our military uses.
    And as far as your dumb question about how much money goes into research, lots of the waste involves weapons that the technology has already been developed for. What you don't get is that all of the top 10 defense contractors have been busted for defrauding the government and have paid $billions in fines but that doesn't stop them because they're making tens of billions of dollars AND THERE IS NO OTHER COMPETITION.

    Stop posing rhetorical questions if you won't actually read up on the topic. This isn't some new phenomenon. Does the name Eisenhower ring a bell? He predicted problems with military-industrial complex way back in the 1950's and it's gotten progressively worse.
    Your ignorance is painful to witness.....

  4. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black-n-Red View Post
    What the hell are you talking about? Are you trying to say that defense contractors in the U.S have higher costs with their labor force so that's why weapons cost more?
    You really are a simpleton. Our defense contractors aren't facing competition from other countries because our technology is so superior to other countries, there aren't many companies that can make the weapons, planes, missiles, etc. that our military uses.
    And as far as your dumb question about how much money goes into research, lots of the waste involves weapons that the technology has already been developed for. What you don't get is that all of the top 10 defense contractors have been busted for defrauding the government and have paid $billions in fines but that doesn't stop them because they're making tens of billions of dollars AND THERE IS NO OTHER COMPETITION.

    Stop posing rhetorical questions if you won't actually read up on the topic. This isn't some new phenomenon. Does the name Eisenhower ring a bell? He predicted problems with military-industrial complex way back in the 1950's and it's gotten progressively worse.

    Okay you call me a simpleton, but can't understand comparing apples to apples.

    Let me try this one more time. We don't have all the facts in order to get a true apples to apples comparision with how we really line up with other countries.

    I am not saying some defense contractors didn't screw the pooch but that is not the only reason. If you can't see past that and diagnose the different issues then you will just continue to blow smoke.

  5. #32

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    Don't talk about something you don't know anything about. I've read a ton of stuff about the waste by the Pentagon these past 15 years. I don't have the capacity to sum up everything I've read in 2 paragraphs or less just to satisfy your simple arguments

    ...." apples to apples..." (Squawk Squawk) ...."we don't have all the facts".....(Squawk Squawk)....Your like a damn parrot.

    Here's a link to an excerpt from a book that will give you the short version:
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Co...ary_Fraud.html

    There are reports that do have a lot of the facts. You just don't want to look at them. Stick your head in the sand, if you want, that's you're right. But shut the hell up, then if you want to be an ostrich....or a parrot, for that matter.
    Last edited by Black-n-Red; 04-30-2009 at 11:18 AM.
    Your ignorance is painful to witness.....

  6. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black-n-Red View Post
    Don't talk about something you don't know anything about. I've read a ton of stuff about the waste by the Pentagon these past 15 years. I don't have the capacity to sum up everything I've read in 2 paragraphs or less just to satisfy your simple arguments

    ...." apples to apples..." (Squawk Squawk) ...."we don't have all the facts".....(Squawk Squawk)....Your like a damn parrot.

    Here's a link to an excerpt from a book that will give you the short version:
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Co...ary_Fraud.html

    There are reports that do have a lot of the facts. You just don't want to look at them. Stick your head in the sand, if you want, that's you're right. But shut the hell up, then if you want to be an ostrich....or a parrot, for that matter.
    Listen man....you can read all you want about government waste and yes it is happening never said it never did but there is still a lot to look at besides what you have read.

    but if you want to keep looking at the surface you will only see the tip of the iceburg. Me personally I would like to see the whole story, but hey that is just me.

    It looks like one of the authors for the link you provided is a real realible source of information. lol

    http://www.counterpunch.org/zepezauer02282003.html

    Here is my favorite paragraph.

    "Of course, the relationship is just a bit more complicated than that. We love America kind of like we might love a dear friend or relative who's drinking too much and putting his health in danger, or messing up his home life. We're kind of embarrassed and more than a little bit worried for good old America. But that doesn't mean we don't love her. Hey, we're family!"

  7. #34

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    Oh, yeah, I'm just looking at the tip of the iceberg but you want to know the whole story - you lie like a whore in church.

    The waste at the Pentagon has been written about endlessly but you want to know the whole story....good one

    And as for the author that I gave you, what? You don't like him because he's a liberal? Compelling reason. I guess the next thing you'll require is for gay marriage advocates to produce sources citing gay men who don't really like anal sex.

    Here's another source for you to ignore....but I suppose U.S. News & World Report doesn't meet your "lofty" standards.....

    http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/...-straight.html
    Your ignorance is painful to witness.....

  8. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black-n-Red View Post
    Oh, yeah, I'm just looking at the tip of the iceberg but you want to know the whole story - you lie like a whore in church.

    The waste at the Pentagon has been written about endlessly but you want to know the whole story....good one

    And as for the author that I gave you, what? You don't like him because he's a liberal? Compelling reason. I guess the next thing you'll require is for gay marriage advocates to produce sources citing gay men who don't really like anal sex.

    Here's another source for you to ignore....but I suppose U.S. News & World Report doesn't meet your "lofty" standards.....

    http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/...-straight.html
    I lie like a whore in a Church...that is actually a pretty good one. But please tell me where I have lied?

    Oh man you are getting good. The author you gave is so biased it isn't even funny, and not even close to an actual study or diagnosis of why the spending is the way it is.

    This second link you gave is almost the same it is essentially an opinion article.

    With the two opinion articles you shared it would be like me sharing a article from Ann Coulter saying the Defense spending is just fine. Which by the way would be stupid.

    Listen pal I agree that there is wasteful spending on Defense I never said there wasn't. I am just saying there is more to the story than what you read about and want to know the root causes.

  9. #36

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    The root causes? How about greed? Do you really think that you can obfuscate the matter just by saying "there's more to the story"? What topic couldn't you say that about?

    Stop acting like there's more to the waste at the Pentagon than greedy, powerful people making a ton of money because they can. It's that simple....but then again, it appears many things are only simple for you if they mesh neatly with your ideological fews. When things don't mesh so neatly, you fall back on the ol' "there's more to the story"

    By the way, when even Republicans say things are rotten in Denmark, things probably are....

    http://mccain.senate.gov/public/inde...8-646c6a780d65
    Your ignorance is painful to witness.....

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