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07-02-2008, 09:37 AM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 1 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: SCt overturns punitive damage award levied on Exxon Valdex A friend of mine -Fred Sanders-Shot a Policeman who had forcably entered Fred's home-Fred was a Catholic grade school teacher and a nice guy -well, the POLICE beat him half to death and arrested him -this all started because a neighbor called and complained about Fred's dog barking too loudly -well the gestapo came and tried to intimidate Fred and Fred asked them if he was under arrest and so on -well one cop went ape sh#t and attacked Fred so Fred went back to his bedroom , got his 12 guage and blew the cop away-
2 years later the court ruled in favor of Mr. Sanders and awarded him 10 million dollars -the judge ruled that the jury were idiots and overturned the amount to $200,000.00-Fred had to go into the witness protection program .
Every word I've typed was told to me by Fred Sanders and you can look it up-So much for 'every man's home his castle' ...This occurred in 1992 or so because I met Fred in a lockdown psych ward -the policeman ,oddly enough , was a former football/baseball player for me at Ben Davis -I believe his name was Gibson -arrogant little steroid freak-
I was in the psych ward because after I cracked my C-5 vertabrae and lost everything I tried to die -Reagan had shut down all the hospitals so they put me in a lockdown ward with murderer's,rapists, psycopaths etc.
As an aside one guy who was my 'Bunkie' was Joseph Gardener , an individual who God told to kill his father and eat his brains , so he did -joe told me who was he to argue with God ?
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07-02-2008, 11:14 AM
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Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: SCt overturns punitive damage award levied on Exxon Valdex Good thing "god" didn't talk to him while you were his bunkie. | | |
07-06-2008, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by buckeye125 While this verdict comes as no surprise, there is no easing of the pain of it's injustice. It is blatantly obvious that too many politician's palms have been lubed by the big oil companies. The recent rejection of the proposed "windfall profits tax" is consistent with this. How is it that Exxon has recently set ALL TIME record profits during a time of supposedly low oil production? Now punitive damages are overturned. See a trend here? | If you want lower supplies and thus higher prices, the WPT is a great way of getting there. | | |
07-06-2008, 10:57 PM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: SCt overturns punitive damage award levied on Exxon Valdex "too many politician's palms have been lubed by the big oil companies."
Now you don't really think it's their palms that are being lubed, do you???  | | |
07-06-2008, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by skipster I don't think it sucks at all that courts rule on law, not emotion or percveived fairness. For thousands of years courts could rule on emotion, and they could kill anyone they simply did not like. Ruling on law alone, without emotion or perceived fairness, protects us all from unjust prosecution. Would you like it better if the court ruled on emotion and their emotion, in this case, was to award money to Exxon, instead of just canceling out some damages? If we allow emotion into the decisions, how can we besure of the just and equal application of the law?
That is a very telling sentence in your post, gallan. It speaks volumes. | I am curious. Exactly what does it tell you? From my reading of Scott's post, I would have thought that he was agreeing with you. My interpretation of Scott's statement is: Although I would really like to see the oil company punished severely for their negligence in damaging the ecology of the Alaskan coastline (with, perhaps, a bit of bitterness toward the unbelievable profits the major oil companies have fallen into in recent times, maybe just a little "screw big business in general", and a touch of "how is this going to effect the fishermen, residents, reconstruction efforts, etc.") I recognise that the court must act according to their interpretation of the law.
Is that, in fact, greatly different than your "If we allow emotion into the decisons, how can we besure (sic) of the just and equal application of the law?"
My reading of your post, and Scott's post, in my opinion, differs mostly in someone looking for an arguement, rather than furthering discussion.
On a totally different point, your comment on "Ruling on law alone, without emotion or perceived fairness, protects us all from unjust prosecution." makes me think you need to review Tennyson's Idylls of the King to refresh yourself on the relationship between justice, mercy, and the law.
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07-07-2008, 12:06 AM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: SCt overturns punitive damage award levied on Exxon Valdex Mr. Payton, your story is fascinating. Where did this take place?
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07-07-2008, 12:08 AM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: SCt overturns punitive damage award levied on Exxon Valdex Urmmmm, Scott? Perhaps a bit presumptuous of me. Is that, maybe, a little of what you were saying?
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07-07-2008, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by M Richardson Mr. Payton, your story is fascinating. Where did this take place? | Indianapolis , Indiana -Fred was a good friend of mine-i was forced to leave the lockdown ward 'cause Marion County jail -ranked the worst jail in the nation -was at 300% capacity and the only hospital was Logansport and there was a 2 year waiting list so they dumped me in the State Farm correctional facility -an incredible learning oppurtunity for me --I learned how to make a shank out of a bed spring -learned how to run about a zillion scams and learned absolutely no one cares about you when you are locked up-you are meat -nothing else .
Joe Gardener is now at 'the SHOE' a permanent lockdown facility -23 hours a day in a cell
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07-07-2008, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Tight-Waist If you want lower supplies and thus higher prices, the WPT is a great way of getting there. | Tim Donaghy must be involved somehow because the ball always seems to bounce oil's way.  | | |
07-08-2008, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by buckeye125 Tim Donaghy must be involved somehow because the ball always seems to bounce oil's way. | Unh! Bourbon in the keyboard again!
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