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    Ground: I challenge you to list the 49 countries that backed America's invasion on the war, and provide a web link backing up your claim.

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    The way I remember...everyone was on board except France and the Dixie Chicks.


    Remember " freedom fries" ?

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    Do you consider fewer than 100 soldiers a backing? America gives millions to countries. Why not send a few soldiers?

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    Interesting, I only remember 30. I just found this article that lists 30 and says 15 additional had not been announced (at the time): http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2862343.stm
    Okay, I trust your source is probably correct.

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    What is also interesting about the Wikipedia article is that it acknowledges that the war was hugely unpopular amongst the citizens in the coalition countries, except in USA and one other. I'm an American living in Australia, and I can attest to the truth of that here. Very few people supported Prime Minister John Howard, but most acknowledged that they can understand his decision because Australia depends upon America for security and economics.

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    As Stephen Stills sings: "49 reasons, all in a line, all of them good ones, a-all of them lies"

    The 49 signatories or whatever is the very same argument that Congressional approval of the President's use of troops is proof that there were WMDs. It's not proof at all. It could be evidence to support the claim, but it certainly isn't proof. To me, it's clear the President used the bully pulpit and whatever inherent powers he had (as arguably the most powerful man on earth) to get Congress and the other countries to go along with him. If they didn't, there would be political repurcussions at home, and possible political and economic pressures in the signatory countries.

    I recall Blix or someone being given access to Iraq at the end, as Contini reports, but Bush didn't want anything to do with it. More importantly, in my view, is the fact Bush never coughed up any credible evidence of his claims. I distinctly remember him giving doomsday predictions in speech after speech, saying he had solid evidence, then being vague about what it was. A lot of people were nervous. But you couldn't prove then he didn't have what he said he had, and he's the President, right? Colin Powell's speech to the UN was supposed to be the great unveiling (this after months of saying they had something but not showing their hand--why not?). It turned out it wasn't so substantive either. I never, at any point, got the sense Bush was being truthful. Never. Now, if you were just sort of listening to the mainstream media, it would be easy to think there was something to what he said. They were pretty compliant (things have really changed since then).

    Anyway that's my subjective impression of what happened. I'm rather skeptical of the claims they relied on faulty intelligence. It seems clear Bush wanted to invade, and he was just building a case for it as he went along.

    Sorry Big, as a "political poster" I didn't want to take up space here, but I couldn't help myself.

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    Hussein admited he had inventories of mustard gas and other chemical weapons as late as 1995. Where then, did they go? I'm convinced he had a bunker in the desert and they remain buried there, or in a warehouse in Syria with about $1billion in US dollars that were never recovered. The cash was probably in that caravan of trucks that were observed heading into Syria 2 nights before they obliterated the country.

    He didn't destroy all of his chemical weapons, he just moved them where the UN wouldn't look for them.

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    What would be the point for Hussein to move weapons to Syria and then face extermination? Wouldn't he rather give them up and continue to rule Iraq?

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