Idiots

quick_single · 06-20-2008, 11:16 AM

GLADSTONE, Ore. - Authorities say a teenager from a faith-healing family died from an illness that could have been easily treated, just a few months after a toddler cousin of his died in a case that has led to criminal charges.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080619/..._healing_death

ban basketball · 06-20-2008, 11:21 AM

Well, isn't that kind of why they call it faith and what freedom of religion is all about? Couldn't we all be accused of "idiotic" beliefs by following some tenets of our faith?

quick_single · 06-20-2008, 11:22 AM

It's the difference between science and science fiction. Fantasy and reality.

Spider · 06-20-2008, 11:25 AM

From the article:

"Tuesday's death of 16-year-old Neil Beagley, however, may not be a crime because Oregon law allows minors 14 and older to decide for themselves whether to accept medical treatment."

Are they friggin' morons? You can't vote, you can't drink, you can't drive a car, but you can make life-determining medical decisions? I don't want to sound like an east-coast elitist, but do those hillbillies even know how to tie their shoes?

Spider · 06-20-2008, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by ban basketball

Well, isn't that kind of why they call it faith and what freedom of religion is all about? Couldn't we all be accused of "idiotic" beliefs by following some tenets of our faith?

I've said it umpteen times, but I'll say it again. Science (eg. medicine) on one hand - religion/faith on the other. Don't use faith to deny science, and don't use scientific arguments to try to prove or disprove the existence of God. When you blur these lines you get into deep doo-doo.

Spider · 06-20-2008, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by ban basketball

Couldn't we all be accused of "idiotic" beliefs by following some tenets of our faith?

Only when they affect the well being of others. Then they surpass idiotic.

Tight-Waist · 06-20-2008, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Spider

From the article:

"Tuesday's death of 16-year-old Neil Beagley, however, may not be a crime because Oregon law allows minors 14 and older to decide for themselves whether to accept medical treatment."

Are they friggin' morons? You can't vote, you can't drink, you can't drive a car, but you can make life-determining medical decisions? I don't want to sound like an east-coast elitist, but do those hillbillies even know how to tie their shoes?

Good point Spider.

It is hard to understand the reasoning of a legislative body along with a Governor coming to the conclusion that it is good policy to allow a 14 year old to make a decision of this nature.

ban basketball · 06-20-2008, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Spider

Only when they affect the well being of others. Then they surpass idiotic.

Yes, but that's relative. We also kill in the names of our religion and say "God Bless them."

As I said, it's all about freedom of religion, to me.

ban basketball · 06-20-2008, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Spider

I've said it umpteen times, but I'll say it again. Science (eg. medicine) on one hand - religion/faith on the other. Don't use faith to deny science, and don't use scientific arguments to try to prove or disprove the existence of God. When you blur these lines you get into deep doo-doo.

And, just as you (and I) may find faith suspect, there are those who find science suspect.

M Richardson · 06-20-2008, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Tight-Waist

Good point Spider.

It is hard to understand the reasoning of a legislative body along with a Governor coming to the conclusion that it is good policy to allow a 14 year old to make a decision of this nature.

Without ANY information whatsoever, I am wondering if the law wasn't the result of something similar to this, but going in the opposite direction. Some minor wanted medical attention that was denied by a parent. Legislators then passed a law setting an age when the child can make the decision. I would not be terribly surprised to find that the law was the result of a minor seeking birth control/abortion medical services.

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