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    Default Re: ACLU weighs in on ISU chaplain proposal

    Protecting whos liberties? I only see them attempt to limit the liberties of the religious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    Protecting whos liberties? I only see them attempt to limit the liberties of the religious.
    Wait a minute. They don't limit the rights of the religious, they protect people's rights not to be subjected to the intrusions of the religious. No one objects to anyone practicing any religion they choose as long as they don't violate any laws or impose their religion on others.
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    They stand up for anybody who even feels like their feeling may get hurt by something religious. They make a mountain out of a mole hill and it is rediculous. In ISU's case they are not infringing on the rights of anyone nor are they IMO imposing religion on anyone. The ACLU should keep it to themselves until they are asked by some directly involved to give council or look into the situation.

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    As I said above, I agree that they sometimes butt in where they aren't needed or wanted, but I can't let you get away with saying that they are out to abridge the liberties of the religious.

    I know that you and I may disagree on what rights religious people have in society, but I am a vehement defender of people's right not to have religion thrust upon them in public places. I respect everyone's right to worship as they please, but I feel strongly that religion is a personal thing that belongs in the home and in the church, not in the public square - or the locker room.
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    Why should religion have to be private and kept in the home or Church. The constitution doesnt say you have freedom of religion as long as you keep it indoor and nobody has a chance to get offended by it. There are numerous things that offend me on a daily basis, I choose to ignore them. I know that we both agree that the gov. should not endorce religion or make it a mandatory ideal in the nation. But there is a middle ground not everything that is PC has to move away from religion it has to involve religion and the religious. We cant take up the fight for the anti-religious and let the religious flounder. You know just because I may not as a parent like the fact that certain books are in the schools library doesnt mean that I am going to run to an institution to have those books removed from every school in the nation. I would tell my kids that those books arent for them and deal with it myself. It seems to me people have lost the ability to think for themselves and stay away from what they dont like. ITs like TV if you dont like whats on change the channal.

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    By public displays of religion, I meant government sponsored. I'm not against private expressions of religion in public - on front lawns, in stores, in private institutions. My main beef is my tax money paying to promote, endorse, or otherwise further a religious belief.
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    Do you have a problem with your tax money going towards extinguish religion?

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    "Thank God for the ACLU (no pun intended). As far as I can tell, they are totally consistent in their positions--unlike say, the idiots of talk radio. They serve a very usual function protecting our liberties."

    It's a tough job, but I'm glad there's somebody out there doing it.
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    Bonnie shouldnt the job be done in both directions?

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