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Cyclone85 · 06-16-2008, 12:29 PM

I just read somewhere it is about a billion world-wide. Wow....

Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net

I hope you guys are right -and I am not anti-catholic-just couldn't believe the 69,000,000 #.

JensenS · 06-16-2008, 01:17 PM

There are around 1.1 billion Catholics, and 1.1 billion Muslims. I don't know what comes after the 1 behind the decimal for either group.

matclone · 06-16-2008, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net

I hope you guys are right -and I am not anti-catholic-just couldn't believe the 69,000,000 #.

Protestants out-number Catholics in the U.S. (roughly 90 mil. to 69 mil.) so I'm not sure what your point is.

http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#religions

Cyclone85 · 06-16-2008, 02:27 PM

I cannot imagine how this would ever happen. He is the spiritual leader (as opposed to a military leader) of a billion Catholics world-wide. He is also respected and listened to by millions of Protestants and Jews.

A call to arms by the world's major Christian religion is not in our future....imo.

Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net

I read a rather astounding fact the other day-there are 69,000,000. Catholics in America-that's roughly 25% of the population-what if The Pope calls for a crusade- such as Bin Laden called for a Jihad-Rabbi Yisrael Rosen has already put in effect the ''Amalekites ruling''

''Annihilate the Amalekites from the beginning to the end. Kill them and wrest them from their possessions . Show them no mercy. Kill contiuosly, one after the other. Leave no child , plant, or tree.Kill their beasts.from camels to donkeys''

Seems to me things could get pretty exciting soon .

Sources-wikkepedia-Bin Laden from the Koran-Rosen from the Torah .

therick · 06-16-2008, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by matclone

Protestants out-number Catholics in the U.S. (roughly 90 mil. to 69 mil.) so I'm not sure what your point is.

http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#religions

But Protestant is an all encompasing term that could include a bunch of denominations(Adventist, anglican, apostolic, baptist, brethern, church of christ, church of god, episcopal, lutheran, mormon, nazarene, pentecostal, presbyterian, united methodist, etc.) few of which has a centralized power structure or a centralized leader.

They resemble Islam in their power structure. Multiple sects of the same religion with local and regional leaders.

BTW, with the influx of hispanic people in the United States, the number of Catholics is on the rise as a huge percentage of those from Mexico and Central and South American countries are raised Catholic.

matclone · 06-16-2008, 06:29 PM

I acknowledge that Protestants don't have a single leader yet they hold a good deal of power in America. Colorado just passed a law outlawing discrimination against transgendered people in use of public facilities including (horrors!) public restrooms. The Rev. James Dobson (I believe) has rung the fear bell on his radio program, and all sorts of people, including those out of state, have written letters to the Denver papers--silly letters full of stupid fears. So, if the Rev. Dobson were to call for a crusade to eliminate Muslims, would his adherents adhere? Of course, he won't do this, no more than the Pope would. The original question here seems to be marked with anti-Catholicism, of which we have a history in the U.S. Just like Red Viking would post his little insiduous anti-Semite questions on the other board.

Throwby · 06-16-2008, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by matclone

I acknowledge that Protestants don't have a single leader yet they hold a good deal of power in America. Colorado just passed a law outlawing discrimination against transgendered people in use of public facilities including (horrors!) public restrooms. The Rev. James Dobson (I believe) has rung the fear bell on his radio program, and all sorts of people, including those out of state, have written letters to the Denver papers--silly letters full of stupid fears. So, if the Rev. Dobson were to call for a crusade to eliminate Muslims, would his adherents adhere? Of course, he won't do this, no more than the Pope would. The original question here seems to be marked with anti-Catholicism, of which we have a history in the U.S. Just like Red Viking would post his little insiduous anti-Semite questions on the other board.

matclone - Since you brought it up the bill you referred to is foolishness and the objections of many people are based, not on fear, but on common sense. Here's an excerpt commenting on the bill "A major criticism of the bill by conservatives is that it appears to allow men who self-identify as “transgender” a legal right to demand to be able to use women’s bathrooms, health club showers, bathhouses, and any other “public accommodation”. Importantly, the bill does not define “transgender”. The Wikipedia entry on the term notes that “the precise definition for transgender remains in flux, but includes... (blah, blah, blah). In other words, the bill is poorly worded, unclear and unnecessary. How many more anti discrimination bills are needed to cloud the atmosphere, especially when they don't clearly define the intent of the legislation? If a billis to be passed it needs to cover something not already included in previous legislation and, by all means, not create more confusion.

matclone · 06-16-2008, 08:12 PM

My point was not to debate SB 200 but to show it as an example of the power of radio, and protestant ministers in America.

I'm not sure where your link is taking me, but why cite some rhetorically-laden argument ("to demand to use women's bathrooms") as proof of anything? This is the sort of scared stupid stuff I was referring to. It's not even worth debating. Here's the actual bill in case you're interested. See the bill's intent at the top. It seems rather plain.

http://www.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLI...ile=200_01.pdf

Throwby · 06-16-2008, 08:23 PM

"why cite some rhetorically-laden argument..." Like the bill itself, right?

We have piles of legislation that already covers virtually everything on the planet. You know where I'm coming from.

matclone · 06-16-2008, 08:34 PM

Yes, well, since you are presumably not a transgendered person, and don't know any, the bill is obviously unnecessary.

In case you don't know, there's a small town in Southern Colorado where most of these operations occur. According to stories published in the Denver papers, the doctors require a transgendered person to live as the opposite sex for a full year before they will consider performing any operation.

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