Obama/Clinton ticket is ideal, a victory!

ODH · 06-12-2008, 01:09 PM

Clinton adds nothing to the ticket and brings a lot of baggage.
I am not one who believes that Hillary's supporters are so bitter about her not getting the nomination that they will not vote for Obama.

She will support Obama becasue she wants to remain relevant in the national political scene. To sit this one out or to sabotage his campaign would destroy her standing.

ODH · 06-12-2008, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Tight-Waist

It would be interesting to know if she blames Bill for her defeat. From all appearances it appears this has been a marriage of convenience. I wouldnt be suprized a bit if she goes back to Sen. Rodham-Clinton or even Sen. Rodham. But that will only come if she believes the White House is beyond reach.

I don't know what basis people have to criticize their marriage or make assumptions about it. It obviously is not a perfect marriage and Bill has cheated and I suspect he always will. However, they have stayed together, through thick and thin, they have a lot in common with their politics and ambition. Supposedly on an intellecual level, they have a lot of mutual respect for each other.

Somewhere there should be conservatives praising them for staying together despite all their troubles.

Tight-Waist · 06-12-2008, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by ODH

Clinton adds nothing to the ticket and brings a lot of baggage.
I am not one who believes that Hillary's supporters are so bitter about her not getting the nomination that they will not vote for Obama.

She will support Obama becasue she wants to remain relevant in the national political scene. To sit this one out or to sabotage his campaign would destroy her standing.

Oh my... you are on the naive side arent you.

Has it occured to you that just like she never campaigned very hard for Kerry (ask his staff about it) because she (they) really didnt want him to win. Because why? you ask. Because she didnt want to have to wait 8 years to run thats why.

Just like everyone else she's known for months she was never going to get this nomination, but she stayed in and fought like a pitbull. And even when he locked up the nomination she makes a speech that was anything BUT a concession speech. (And at that point she stepped OVER the line) Lets face it, shes done all that she thought she could get away with to scuttle his campaign. WHY?

She WANTS him to loose so she can run again in 4 years. 8 Years is too long, she'll be seen as too old.

matclone · 06-12-2008, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Throwby

Have you ever seen a campaign sign or bumper sticker for her that says "Clinton"? The only ones I have seen say "Hillary" so I guess that's just the name I associate with her campaign. I saw a couple more yesterday.

Would there be another more insidious reason?

Yes, there could be. She is often denigrated for being a woman. Using the familiar "Hillary" rather than the more formal "Clinton" could be be a manifestation of this, especially vis a vis "Romney" but your pointing out that her bumper stickers say "Hillary" is a good rebuttal.

Here's one woman's commentary on the mysoginistic aspects of the race: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080623/pollitt.

BonnieJ2 · 06-12-2008, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Throwby

Have you ever seen a campaign sign or bumper sticker for her that says "Clinton"? The only ones I have seen say "Hillary" so I guess that's just the name I associate with her campaign. I saw a couple more yesterday.

Would there be another more insidious reason?

It's a unique problem. On one hand saying Hillary and Obama seems disrespectful to her, calling her by her first name and him by his last, but she has to differentiate herself from that other Clinton somehow, so she uses her first name.
Probably the only time I've agreed with Karl Rove was after the "Barack Hussein Obama" flap started, when Rove said that the correct name to use is "Senator Obama", and Hillary Clinton - "Senator Clinton".

Throwby · 06-12-2008, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by matclone

Yes, there could be. She is often denigrated for being a woman. Using the familiar "Hillary" rather than the more formal "Clinton" could be be a manifestation of this, especially vis a vis "Romney" but your pointing out that her bumper stickers say "Hillary" is a good rebuttal.

Here's one woman's commentary on the mysoginistic aspects of the race: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080623/pollitt.

Actually, Romney used "Mitt" on his campaign items but it was apparently not popular since I never saw one other than on TV. Besides, who would name a kid "Mitt"?

matclone · 06-12-2008, 02:03 PM

And he gave his kid some goofy name too, like Tag or something. Names only a pulp fiction novelist would like.

Throwby · 06-12-2008, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by matclone

And he gave his kid some goofy name too, like Tag or something. Names only a pulp fiction novelist would like.

Yeah, I forgot that one! SHEESH!!!

Obama/Clinton ticket is ideal, a victory!

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