Re: American law supports property confiscation during Civil War without compensation

**RYou** · 06-01-2007, 05:24 AM

"the War of Northern Aggression" - don't you just love those spin doctors from the south.

If I recall, wasn't it a bunch of renegade South Carolinians that fired the first shots of the war on the Union Ship - Star of the West - from Morris island and wasn't it the CSA that marched north to Manasas, just across the Potomac from DC to take on federal troops ?

Isn't the aggressor the one that acts first ?

**Stardust** · 06-01-2007, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by RYou

"the War of Northern Aggression" - don't you just love those spin doctors from the south.

If I recall, wasn't it a bunch of renegade South Carolinians that fired the first shots of the war on the Union Ship - Star of the West - from Morris island and wasn't it the CSA that marched north to Manasas, just across the Potomac from DC to take on federal troops ?

Isn't the aggressor the one that acts first ?

I don't know what you're talking about

South Carolina had seceded. All those poor boys wanted was to be left alone. The Union ship was there to re-supply the US Army people stationed at Ft Sumter, where they had no business being at that point. It was aggressive of them to be occupying an army base of the CSA.

And if I recall, Manassas is in Virginia, which at the time the Union troops invaded, was also a part of the CSA.

**RYou** · 06-01-2007, 10:40 PM

Riiiiiiiiiight and all of those good ol' southern boys from North Carolina and South Carolina and Georgia were meeting up in northern Virginia for one big family reunion.

**Stardust** · 06-01-2007, 10:56 PM

Nope. They gathered together to defend their country against the boys who I'm sure were all from just over the border in Maryland.

**RYou** · 06-02-2007, 08:28 AM

Honeylamb, had the boys in beards and gray not assembled on the steps of the White House, ol' Abe would have left the south alone and negotiated a concession. he was merely intending to prevent a takeover of DC.

But, nooooooooooooo, those big bad barbequers had to make a fight of it over their rats. The USA did not even have a draft in place when them boys in gray fired on Sumpter.

**Big** · 06-02-2007, 10:08 AM

Wasn't Lincoln's main claim for the war to bring the Union back?

**RYou** · 06-02-2007, 11:24 AM

Ah, yupppp.. But his initial desire was to negotiate a reunion, not bust a few heads in the process.

**phillywrestler** · 06-05-2007, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by 8224

Big could you provide a reference to that law. I would like to see what all it says.

I second that.

**Big** · 06-05-2007, 06:48 PM

The exercise of eminent domain is not limited to real property. Governments may also condemn personal property, such as supplies for the military in wartime, franchises, as well as intangible property such as contracts, patents, trade secrets and copyrights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain

There is a paragraph there that says this law should not apply to a revolutionary government. However, during property seizure Soviet government was official and no longer revolutionary.

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