Still killing over a cartoon

Throwby · 06-03-2008, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by JensenS

Islam is a caustic blend of paganism and twisted Bible stories.

Like I said earlier, I more or less stopped taking that site seriously after reading this, the first sentence on the page.

With your vigorous defense of the site, I guess that means I can stop taking your seriously too.

Let me say again, that site claims that the Virginia Tech shooter was a reincarnation of Muhammad. It makes this claim, and then spends a substantial portion of time trying to justify it.

They're absolute whackos.

Jensen - one question. Moses wrote the Pentateuch from which many of the "twisted Bible stories" came from. History places him about the 13th to the 15th century BC. Muhammed died in 632 AD. Does it not seem likely that his versions of similar stories were in fact taken from Moses' writings and altered somewhat?

Throwby · 06-03-2008, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by arm-spin

http://www.chick.com/catalog/tractlo...nguage=English

Jack Chick Tracts... sorry to hijack the arguing, but I find these funny and I bet some others will as well.

If I say they are funny will I get thrown in the penalty box?

JensenS · 06-03-2008, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Throwby

Jensen - one question. Moses wrote the Pentateuch from which many of the "twisted Bible stories" came from. History places him about the 13th to the 15th century BC. Muhammed died in 632 AD. Does it not seem likely that his versions of similar stories were in fact taken from Moses' writings and altered somewhat?

I won't dispute the idea that the Koran, and the Old Testament of the Bible are quite similar.

But when you couple that with the fact that the Muslims worship the same God as the Christians, and acknowledge Abraham, Moses, and Jesus as prophets I think the rationale for that fact can be seen.

The characterization of Islam as "Paganism" in that sentence is comical.

Straight out of the Chanson's de Geste, or any of the numerous "Why Christianity is better than Islam" chronicles of the 8-13th centuries.

rustyshackleford · 06-03-2008, 07:16 PM

These people are fucking savages. There is no reason to mince words.

Jensen, your only 20? I'll be damned!

JensenS · 06-03-2008, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by rustyshackleford

Jensen, your only 20? I'll be damned!

I thought you facing damnation was already common knowledge.

My tender age doesn't have anything to do with it!

rustyshackleford · 06-03-2008, 07:25 PM

Yeah, you got me there. I figured you were older, that's all.

Throwby · 06-03-2008, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by JensenS

I won't dispute the idea that the Koran, and the Old Testament of the Bible are quite similar.

But when you couple that with the fact that the Muslims worship the same God as the Christians, and acknowledge Abraham, Moses, and Jesus as prophets I think the rationale for that fact can be seen.

The characterization of Islam as "Paganism" in that sentence is comical.

Straight out of the Chanson's de Geste, or any of the numerous "Why Christianity is better than Islam" chronicles of the 8-13th centuries.

That is where we differ. I do not believe the Muslim god and the Christian/Jewish God are the same but that explains to me where you are coming from. FWIW I studied Islam before you were born, I am far from historically ignorant and hardly biased. I call it as I see it and have no problem agreeing to disagree but IMO your comments here were way out of line.

matclone · 06-03-2008, 07:31 PM

I used to assume Jensen was older too, in part because he acts more mature than many here who are older, and in part because he obviously has some education.

matclone · 06-03-2008, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Throwby

That is where we differ. I do not believe the Muslim god and the Christian/Jewish God are the same but that explains to me where you are coming from. FWIW I studied Islam before you were born, I am far from historically ignorant and hardly biased. I call it as I see it and have no problem agreeing to disagree but IMO your comments here were way out of line.

Your credibility on the subject is seriously undermined by your defense of that website.

JensenS · 06-03-2008, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Throwby

That is where we differ. I do not believe the Muslim god and the Christian/Jewish God are the same but that explains to me where you are coming from. FWIW I studied Islam before you were born, I am far from historically ignorant and hardly biased. I call it as I see it and have no problem agreeing to disagree but IMO your comments here were way out of line.

The very, very condensed view of my belief that the two religions worship the same God come from the similarities that they share in their general doctrine. The fact that Islam recognizes Abraham (He's considered the founder of their religion), Noah, Moses, and Jesus as prophets is one of my primary reasons.

Just an FYI too, I'm looking at this from a purely scholastic approach as I'm not a religious person.

If you'll notice, I didn't attack you with my first post I attacked your ridiculous source for your post. I fully concur with you and Dave that those killing over these cartoons are absolute animals (is this strong enough verbiage to satisfy you now?)

I guess I can dig up my copies of the Bible and the Koran to try and go more in depth, but I can't say that I really want to if the time is going to be wasted.

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