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    People in the military overseas or on a base may not have access to a religious advisor other than one provided by the military. College football players have easy access to religious counseling if they desire it, and a team chaplain is completely extraneous.
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    Maybe during the off season but during season they may not hav time, I dont know. I am saying if the funding is coming from outside the school then whats the problem. I also said that they may want to make him unofficial and still pay him with private funds.

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    To me, it's not a question of funding or of whether he's official or unofficial. I guess if a member of the clergy who was already part of the school faculty visited the team and said that his door was open if anyone felt the need to speak to him, I'd be okay with that. What I'm not okay with is the team having a team chaplain. To me, that says that there is a religious aspect to sports, and there isn't, or shouldn't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    [1] Perhaps he did not have all the facts before ho spoke to the paper.

    [2] Please explain to me how "PRIVATE" donations still belong to the school. I also said that maybe to appease the libs they should hire him in an unofficial team capacity.
    1.) i would guess that there would have been an objection from Pollard if this was the case, i also assume something this basic would have been covered in the dialogue between pollard and those who object to this.

    2.) Private donations belong to the school because the money is given to the school, it is up to the school whether they want to use it or not in cases where the money is given for a specific intent. I.E. i could donate money soley to be used to bring Ward Churchill to football games, it is up to the university whether they want to use my money in this way or not

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    btw, i do not see how this is a liberal issue at all or how your suggestion helps the problems cited

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    To me, it's not a question of funding or of whether he's official or unofficial. I guess if a member of the clergy who was already part of the school faculty visited the team and said that his door was open if anyone felt the need to speak to him, I'd be okay with that. What I'm not okay with is the team having a team chaplain. To me, that says that there is a religious aspect to sports, and there isn't, or shouldn't be.
    i should have read this more carefully before posting

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    Well its not a conservative issue I can tell you that. I am not fully aware of how donations work I always assumed that money given to football team went directly to the team or the booster club for the team. I dont see why a private booster could pay for the chaplains services without the school being involved.

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    Players of other faiths aren't being denied the opportunity to practice their faith; there never was a Muslim or Jewish religious member on staff. It's not like ISU fired a rabbi so they could hire the chaplain. And I don't remember reading that doing whatever the chaplain wanted was a requirement to be on the team. All ISU is doing is providing an opportunity for student-athletes to seek religious guidance. If private donors wanted to hire a Jewish or Muslim religious counselor, or Ward Churchill, as long as it's not required to participate in whatever they do, I fail to see how it promotes one religion over another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISU2008 View Post
    If private donors wanted to hire a Jewish or Muslim religious counselor, or Ward Churchill, ....
    LOL!!! Can't you just see the team running out on the field with a whole cadre of holy men/women, whatever behind them. You could have a Catholic priest spreading the incense as they go, Churchill could do some American Indian dance, I don't know what the Buddhist priest would do, but they could find some some interesting religious people right there in Fairfield, Iowa at Maharashi U. And how could I forget the Flying Sphagetti Monster devotees. What would they do, Scott?

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