Recount

JensenS · 05-27-2008, 06:45 PM

Go into a person's profile and click on "User Lists". Should be pretty self explanatory from there.

ban basketball · 05-27-2008, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan

What? No, it was the recount itself that was stopped, and not the aoriginal count of the vote. Where are you getting htis information that the original count was stopped?

Well, it depends on how you look at it. The recount was counting votes from the original election. The recounts/counting of the votes is what was stopped.

Zapp Brannigan · 05-27-2008, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by ban basketball

Well, it depends on how you look at it. The recount was counting votes from the original election. The recounts/counting of the votes is what was stopped.

I don't see how you can argue it was anything other then a recount. The votes were counted. Then, they attempted to recount them, and that was stopped.

skipster · 05-27-2008, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by ban basketball

Well, it depends on how you look at it. The recount was counting votes from the original election. The recounts/counting of the votes is what was stopped.

Are you saying that since the recount was stopped, it was as if they never counted the votes before the recount?

What happened was that ALL the votes were counted. During a recount, some counties wanted to apply different counting standards with regards to chads and voter intent than they used in the original count. The US Supreme Court said that a recount should not go on if it would be held to different standards than the original count.

In the end, the will of the people of Florida was done. We understand that you don't think the people of Florida should have been allowed to choose who they wanted for president, but the Supreme Court over-ruled you.

ban basketball · 05-27-2008, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan

I don't see how you can argue it was anything other then a recount. The votes were counted. Then, they attempted to recount them, and that was stopped.

The votes were not counted. The recount was also allowed by Florida law. It was that/the counting of the votes that was stopped.

ban basketball · 05-27-2008, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by skipster

Are you saying that since the recount was stopped, it was as if they never counted the votes before the recount?

What happened was that ALL the votes were counted. During a recount, some counties wanted to apply different counting standards with regards to chads and voter intent than they used in the original count. The US Supreme Court said that a recount should not go on if it would be held to different standards than the original count.

In the end, the will of the people of Florida was done. We understand that you don't think the people of Florida should have been allowed to choose who they wanted for president, but the Supreme Court over-ruled you.

One important point was left out of this: "The US Supreme Court said that a recount should not go on if it would be held to different standards than the original count."

They made this ruling based on the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment. For one, it is the first case where the plaintiff was not the one who claimed being denied the right to vote, but more importantly, They then ruled to throw out the undervotes and not count them.

It is for the bold above why no lawyer has yet to say that this was a valid and consisten ruling. How can you rule that people are beuing denied equal protection of the law, yet willfully not count thousands of votes?!

Zapp Brannigan · 05-27-2008, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by ban basketball

The votes were not counted. The recount was also allowed by Florida law. It was that/the counting of the votes that was stopped.

The second counting, you mean. Because the votes had already been counted once.

ban basketball · 05-27-2008, 08:22 PM

I refer everyone, again, to this article written by conservative prosecutor, Vincent Bugliosi.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20010205/bugliosi

washed up wrestler · 05-27-2008, 09:02 PM

Back to the original idea of this thread-I thought the film was average at best. But I'll tell you this, Laura Dern has always, and continues to turn me on!

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