Hitler killing 6 million Jews was part of God's plan McCain's pastor said

ban basketball · 05-22-2008, 11:05 PM

I will, for the one thousand and oneth time, point out that Iran, endorsed Bush. http://www.iranfocus.com/en/index.ph...sk=view&id=557

ban basketball · 05-22-2008, 11:11 PM

Bottom line: Compare for me what Wright has said with what McCain's bigoted spirtual advisors have said.

Lay it all on the line with Wright. I welcome it.

contini · 05-22-2008, 11:14 PM

recall that bin Laden endorsed John Kerry in 2004 and said the democrats should be in power, not the republicans.

Please don't make outrageous claims without a source to back it up. Give a quote, time & date, and url.

furches · 05-22-2008, 11:17 PM

fellas I am not a big McCain fan, not even a Hagee fan at all, that said, Hagee is not McCain's pastor he is someone who endorsed him independently, McCain has as much control over this endorsement as Obama does over Minister Farakkhan

skipster · 05-22-2008, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by contini

recall that bin Laden endorsed John Kerry in 2004 and said the democrats should be in power, not the republicans.

Please don't make outrageous claims without a source to back it up. Give a quote, time & date, and url.

Are you sure you want to hold yourself to that, too?

contini · 05-22-2008, 11:32 PM

I'm sure I want you to justify your claim. If you have a source, fine, but otherwise it looks like a junk claim to me.

ban basketball · 05-22-2008, 11:41 PM

Exactly. Let's see where bin Laden endorsed Kerry. I, at least, have evidence to show where Iran endorsed Bush.

Tight-Waist · 05-23-2008, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Big

Looks like McCain's endorsing pastor beats Rev Right's remarks by far:

SAN JOSE—Senator John McCain rejected the endorsement on Thursday of the evangelical leader, the Rev. John C. Hagee, three stormy months after it was first announced as part of an effort to shore up Mr. McCain’s standing among Christian conservatives.

The rejection of Mr. Hagee’s endorsement occurred after another controversial sermon from the televangelist and pastor of Cornerstone, a mega-church in San Antonio, surfaced in which he argued that biblical verses made clear that Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust was part of God’s plan to chase the Jews from Europe and drive them to Palestine.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2.../index.html?hp

Unlike Wright.... Hagee was NEVER McCain's pastor, and you know that.

But because you know that Obasma cant explain why

* he's been going to the same nutcase hatemongering pastor for 20 years

* why he named that pastor his campaign's official Spiritual Advisor,

* used that pastor's own words for the title of his book,

* and asked that pastor to marry him and his wife

you seek to equate all that with a mere political endorsement.

Im sorry, but as they say... that dog wont hunt.

ban basketball · 05-23-2008, 11:34 AM

So, what should we all do about having differing views from our own churches? If Obama is being villified for differing with his pastor, we all should be equally villified.

Throwby · 05-23-2008, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by ban basketball

So, what should we all do about having differing views from our own churches? If Obama is being villified for differing with his pastor, we all should be equally villified.

If your views were substantially different would you sit there and listen to those different views being propounded for 24 years and remain quiet about it? Would you raise your family in that environment? Would you consider the one who was speaking them your spiritual advisor? It seems to me that if Obama had signifcant problems with Black Liberation Theology as expressed through Rev. Wright he would have left Trinity long ago, but he didn't. That suggests to any thinking person that he was well aware of the theology being espoused by the church and bought into it.

Hitler killing 6 million Jews was part of God's plan McCain's pastor said

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