M Richardson

First, or last?

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Why does everyone always speak of Adam and Eve but no one speaks of Adam and his first wife , Lilith -the first woman and the one God kicked out for wanting equal rights . I believe he turned her into a demon ,succubus ,I think .
That's another thing I don't understand -if you are a christian you are supposed to believe every word of the bible -yet I heard no one complaining when in the 90's the Lilith fair played cross country .

furches

While there are many legends regarding Lilith, the only place in the Christian Bible where she may be mentioned is in Isaiah 34:14, and even there, most Biblical scholars see her as a demon as opposed to a woman. There are many legends that go with the story of Lilith but little actually in the bible. The verse that may be speaking of Lilith sttes the following:

The desert creatures will meet with the wolves,
The hairy goat also will cry to its kind;
Yes, the night monster will settle there
And will find herself a resting place."

The wording for nigh monster, translates Lilith in Hebrew. A stretch.

I will say, the story of Lilith would be a great topic worthy of discussion and many do hold through legend and other non biblical texts that Lilith may have been Adam's first wife. I haven't seen enough evidence to believe or accept this myself, if anyone has any strong evidence or other Biblical proofs, it would be interesting to look at.

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jpv

The wording for nigh monster, translates Lilith in Hebrew. A stretch.

I'm sorry, but I've read a number of times that some "creationists" or "literalists" use the Bible to explain that dinosaurs walked with man. And you think this is a stretch? Where does the stretching stop?

Spider

Oh, yeah? Well did you ever see The Flintstones, smart guy?

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jpv

Touche, Spider. I stand corrected.

furches

Lilith, in mythology, is perceived by some to be a woman, by others a demon. To make an assumption is just that, an assumption, and thus a stretch. No one here, or from a theological perspective associates Lilith as a dinosaur so I am not sure I understand the purpose or reason of your comment. This conversation has nothing to do with creationism. The question has to do with the Biblical records of Lilith, which in reality, is very questionable if it exists at all from a Biblical perspective, thus the reaon for the comment that to use this translation as a stretch is I think, appropriate.

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tpay

Pearl Slaghoople, Betty Rubble's mom, was HOT!!!

oc

Take a materialistic worldview, or, a Biblical literalist and truth is lost. Literalist argue for the Bible to be true everything must be taken literally (except John 6). Literal therfore equals truth, while non literal equals error. This is absurd, Little Red Riding Hood is full of truths (listen to trustworthy adults, stay on the straight and narrow path, if you wander into the woods, get back on the path as quick as possible, if not appetite, the wolf, will kill you), important truths all. Materialism argues, all you see is all there is. This is also absurd. Materialist philosophy kills the believers sense of wonder, they become jaded and alienated. So, the literalist misses much of the truth in scripture, it's over his head as it were. While the materialist is dead to all but the most obvious truth in scripture (honor your father and mother for example). Oh well, what can you do?

Throwby

The moral of Adam and Eve... women will eat you out of house and home if you don't keep a watchful eye on them.