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    Default Many American women don't want equal opportunities with regard to men

    A recent New York Times article reported that the number of stay-at-home moms has increased 13 percent in less than a decade, and among working women, 2/3 work part-time. This is true even of graduates of prestigious colleges, women who were bestowed a fiercely competed-for slot at an elite college on the assumption they would use that coveted degree to make a big difference in the world.


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    Big,

    I am SHOCKED that you understand that different people are different! I am happy to welcome you to the conservative free-market side.

    This is quite a break from a thread a long time ago about equal pay for women when you and others claimed that women should always be paid as much as men. No one disagrees with that, but they also don't mention that all the studies comapred average female compensation to the highest male compensation. By using that logic, average male compensation is not as high as the highest mael compensation, so men are paid more than other men are.

    You have also noticed that some women choose not to work outside the home, or choose to take jobs that pay less, like part-time jobs. This is a VERY free-market idea thinking that women can choose to work full time, part time, or not at all. You also understand that pay differs from one person to the next because the particulars of the situation and employee differ. Should we pay a person who has 5 years on the job the same as a person who has 20 years on the job? Should a person who has worked in that particular industry for 10 years make the same as somone who has worked in that industry for 3 years? Should one person who does better work than another still get the same pay?

    There is no possible way we can know the circumstances of each employee. Since every person differs, there is no reason to expect that they have equal pay. When my mother was a member of the Society for Human Resource Management, they conducted a study of workplace pay and found that average female compensation was higher than average male compensation for more than half of the ages between 20 and 65.

    People differ and no equal pay is reasonably expected for those wide and varied circumstances.

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    Union members might differ with your assessment.

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    It's not that they don't want equal opportunities with men, it's that it's hard as hell to juggle work and a young family and nothing really prepares you for that reality.
    "All my life I have tried to pluck a thistle and plant a flower wherever the flower would grow in thought and mind." -- Abraham Lincoln

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    Default Re: Many American women don't want equal opportunities with regard to men

    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieJ2 View Post
    It's not that they don't want equal opportunities with men, it's that it's hard as hell to juggle work and a young family and nothing really prepares you for that reality.

    That's true. My point is that politicians love to boast how American Democracy gives MUCH DESIRED equalities in employment to women when the reality is those equalities are not so desired by many women. Rather, American economy desires that women took those opportunities and used them.

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    Default Re: Many American women don't want equal opportunities with regard to men

    Glad to know you speak for American women, Big. Maybe you should move out to Colorado Springs and work for Focus on the Family.

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