Originally Posted by skipster

Some people get nervous aboutthe preacher thing because they think it is PC to say that are nervous about it. But, its only an issue if we make it one. Why should we use Huckabee's religion as an issue if we are told we shouldn't use Obama's preacher and religion as an issue?

Originally Posted by Spider

I did like him a lot as a person, but I can't see having a President whose belief in a literal interpretation of the Bible overrides an acceptance of scientific principles. To me, this is a judgement issue which does affect leadership,

Originally Posted by skipster

Misinformation makes for poor decisions. Huckabee did not ever say he had a literal interpretation of the Bible and none of his speeches or answers to debate questions implied so. In fact, he was just the opposite -- he told everyone that the Bible can have many interpretations.

Remember back to one of the first Republican debates when they asked Huckabee if he believed that the earth was created in 6 days. He said he did believe that it was, but that those six days were simply time periods, not necessarily 24-hour days. He believed that God created the heavens and the earth in six time periods.

But, I don't understand why people think faith in something makes a person have poor leadership decisions. Wouldn't you rather have a leader who believes in something than one who believes in whatever the polls tell him to at the moment? Hillary proclaimed Christianity only when she was campaigning to Christians, then played down faith when campaigning to others. Obama played up his faith and church until it came out that they preach hate of America, then he says faith doesn't matter. Huckabee maintained his faith regardless of the polls. It is glaringly apparent that voters don't like that.

But, what gets to me even more, is that we hear all the time that people don't like Washington insiders who are all about business as usual. Huckabee and Ron Paul were the only candidates who weren't insiders conducting business as usual. I guess people just like to say they don't want the insiders, but end up electing them anyhow.

Originally Posted by Spider

I definitely do not believe that faith makes anyone an unfit candidate for President. I do remember, however, that Huckabee once said that he believed in creationism and that the earth was only a few million (thousand?)years old. He did not believe the scientific evidence indicating the true age of the earth. If I misunderstood his position, I apologize, but that's how I remember it. I do not think that belief in a strict literal interpretation of the Bible, which denies scientific evidence, is an indication that a person will be open minded on issues such as birth control, stem cell research, teaching intelligent design as science, etc. I have discussed what I believe to be the roles of religion and science in society and in the lives of individuals, and have explained on numerous occasions how they can coexist. I don't want a President who doesn't understand this, and again, if I have misjudged Huckabee on this, my apologies, but even if I felt otherwise, it's too late to help him get the nomination.

Originally Posted by ctc

scientific creationism.

Originally Posted by skipster

Spider,

I understand that people may think about things differently. Strict literal interpretation of the Bible does not necessarily deny ALL scientific evidence. Maybe it would deny some scientific evidence, but we should remember that the Bible is full of literary allegories, allusions, and analogies. It was never meant to be taken by the letter on everything, and Huckabee has said that. Huckabee and his record as a governor have shown us that faith and government can peacefully and successfully coexist.

But, if you don't people hwo profess their faith, use their faith to gain voters, or use literal interpretations of the Bible, you apparently don't like Barack Obama. As talked about on NBC's Meet the Press, Obama has distributed fliers to Kentucky churches telling them how he is a good Christian man who believes in not only sitting in church, but doing the work of God, which is a literal Bible interpretation.

Remember th outcry in the media and by liberals when they thought there was a cross in the background of one of Huckabee's commercials? There was an enormous outcry about him pushing his faith on others, even though the commercial had NOTHING to do with faith and the perceived cross was just a bookshelf. Well, we see the hypocrisy from the media and from the liberals, because there is no outcry at all and Obama's fliers show him in church with a cross -- a real cross, not a bookshelf.

So, if you don't think you can vote for someone who has used a literal interpretation of the Bible in his campaign, you certainly can not vote for Obama.

Originally Posted by ctc

I didn't see anything wrong with the joke. I didn't bust a gut either. It's no secret that Obama is anti- NRA and totally against citizens owning guns - almost as if he walks around in fear that someone will take a shot at him.