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    To me, he seemed to be the most "normal" of ANY of the candidates from either side. He was truly the "regular guy," the "regular Joe" who was runing for president. He was really down-to-earth had a totally no-nonsense approach. He was the ONLY candidate who didn't use the classic obfuscatory Washington-speak -- he told you in no uncertain terms what he was about.

    He also was plain spoken about his faith and gave numerous examples from his times as a governor how he didn't try to force his beliefs on others. I thought that made him cool. I thought more people would have voted for him early on because he was the most articulate and plain spoken candidate. While others stuttered on nearly every debate question, Huckabee breezed right trough without incident.

    Some people get nervous aboutthe preacher thing because they think it is PC to say that are nervous about it. But, its only an issue if we make it one. Why should we use Huckabee's religion as an issue if we are told we shouldn't use Obama's preacher and religion as an issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipster View Post

    Some people get nervous aboutthe preacher thing because they think it is PC to say that are nervous about it. But, its only an issue if we make it one. Why should we use Huckabee's religion as an issue if we are told we shouldn't use Obama's preacher and religion as an issue?
    I did like him a lot as a person, but I can't see having a President whose belief in a literal interpretation of the Bible overrides an acceptance of scientific principles. To me, this is a judgement issue which does affect leadership,
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    I didn't see anything wrong with the joke. I didn't bust a gut either. It's no secret that Obama is anti- NRA and totally against citizens owning guns - almost as if he walks around in fear that someone will take a shot at him.

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    I did like him a lot as a person, but I can't see having a President whose belief in a literal interpretation of the Bible overrides an acceptance of scientific principles. To me, this is a judgement issue which does affect leadership,
    Misinformation makes for poor decisions. Huckabee did not ever say he had a literal interpretation of the Bible and none of his speeches or answers to debate questions implied so. In fact, he was just the opposite -- he told everyone that the Bible can have many interpretations.

    Remember back to one of the first Republican debates when they asked Huckabee if he believed that the earth was created in 6 days. He said he did believe that it was, but that those six days were simply time periods, not necessarily 24-hour days. He believed that God created the heavens and the earth in six time periods.

    But, I don't understand why people think faith in something makes a person have poor leadership decisions. Wouldn't you rather have a leader who believes in something than one who believes in whatever the polls tell him to at the moment? Hillary proclaimed Christianity only when she was campaigning to Christians, then played down faith when campaigning to others. Obama played up his faith and church until it came out that they preach hate of America, then he says faith doesn't matter. Huckabee maintained his faith regardless of the polls. It is glaringly apparent that voters don't like that.

    But, what gets to me even more, is that we hear all the time that people don't like Washington insiders who are all about business as usual. Huckabee and Ron Paul were the only candidates who weren't insiders conducting business as usual. I guess people just like to say they don't want the insiders, but end up electing them anyhow.

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    But, I don't understand why people think faith in something makes a person have poor leadership decisions.

    Depends on how they use the faith. We are a Democratic Republic and not a theocracy afterall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skipster View Post
    Misinformation makes for poor decisions. Huckabee did not ever say he had a literal interpretation of the Bible and none of his speeches or answers to debate questions implied so. In fact, he was just the opposite -- he told everyone that the Bible can have many interpretations.

    Remember back to one of the first Republican debates when they asked Huckabee if he believed that the earth was created in 6 days. He said he did believe that it was, but that those six days were simply time periods, not necessarily 24-hour days. He believed that God created the heavens and the earth in six time periods.

    But, I don't understand why people think faith in something makes a person have poor leadership decisions. Wouldn't you rather have a leader who believes in something than one who believes in whatever the polls tell him to at the moment? Hillary proclaimed Christianity only when she was campaigning to Christians, then played down faith when campaigning to others. Obama played up his faith and church until it came out that they preach hate of America, then he says faith doesn't matter. Huckabee maintained his faith regardless of the polls. It is glaringly apparent that voters don't like that.

    But, what gets to me even more, is that we hear all the time that people don't like Washington insiders who are all about business as usual. Huckabee and Ron Paul were the only candidates who weren't insiders conducting business as usual. I guess people just like to say they don't want the insiders, but end up electing them anyhow.

    I definitely do not believe that faith makes anyone an unfit candidate for President. I do remember, however, that Huckabee once said that he believed in creationism and that the earth was only a few million (thousand?)years old. He did not believe the scientific evidence indicating the true age of the earth. If I misunderstood his position, I apologize, but that's how I remember it. I do not think that belief in a strict literal interpretation of the Bible, which denies scientific evidence, is an indication that a person will be open minded on issues such as birth control, stem cell research, teaching intelligent design as science, etc. I have discussed what I believe to be the roles of religion and science in society and in the lives of individuals, and have explained on numerous occasions how they can coexist. I don't want a President who doesn't understand this, and again, if I have misjudged Huckabee on this, my apologies, but even if I felt otherwise, it's too late to help him get the nomination.
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    Spider,
    Declaring that there isn't scientific evidence that the earth is much younger and that there is scientific evidence saying that the earth is absolutely billions of years old is nonsense. I invite you to the world of scientific creationism. I read much from www.answersingenesis.com . May I suggest you go there and "search" for some interesting articles that might enlighten you.
    I have been watching some great pieces called "Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution" by Dr Jobe Martin. He is a dentist that was once an athiest and who was teaching evolution at Baylor Dental College in Dallas. He even was the dentist for one of the presidents. His evolution beliefs were brought into question by a couple of his students. He researched what they had to say and then began researching animals. As a result, he became a creationists and a Christian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    I definitely do not believe that faith makes anyone an unfit candidate for President. I do remember, however, that Huckabee once said that he believed in creationism and that the earth was only a few million (thousand?)years old. He did not believe the scientific evidence indicating the true age of the earth. If I misunderstood his position, I apologize, but that's how I remember it. I do not think that belief in a strict literal interpretation of the Bible, which denies scientific evidence, is an indication that a person will be open minded on issues such as birth control, stem cell research, teaching intelligent design as science, etc. I have discussed what I believe to be the roles of religion and science in society and in the lives of individuals, and have explained on numerous occasions how they can coexist. I don't want a President who doesn't understand this, and again, if I have misjudged Huckabee on this, my apologies, but even if I felt otherwise, it's too late to help him get the nomination.
    Spider,

    I understand that people may think about things differently. Strict literal interpretation of the Bible does not necessarily deny ALL scientific evidence. Maybe it would deny some scientific evidence, but we should remember that the Bible is full of literary allegories, allusions, and analogies. It was never meant to be taken by the letter on everything, and Huckabee has said that. Huckabee and his record as a governor have shown us that faith and government can peacefully and successfully coexist.

    But, if you don't people hwo profess their faith, use their faith to gain voters, or use literal interpretations of the Bible, you apparently don't like Barack Obama. As talked about on NBC's Meet the Press, Obama has distributed fliers to Kentucky churches telling them how he is a good Christian man who believes in not only sitting in church, but doing the work of God, which is a literal Bible interpretation.

    Remember th outcry in the media and by liberals when they thought there was a cross in the background of one of Huckabee's commercials? There was an enormous outcry about him pushing his faith on others, even though the commercial had NOTHING to do with faith and the perceived cross was just a bookshelf. Well, we see the hypocrisy from the media and from the liberals, because there is no outcry at all and Obama's fliers show him in church with a cross -- a real cross, not a bookshelf.

    So, if you don't think you can vote for someone who has used a literal interpretation of the Bible in his campaign, you certainly can not vote for Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctc View Post
    scientific creationism.
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