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    One journalist who holds political views that are probably close to mine is Amy Goodman (Democracy Now). Her goal is not so provocative but I have trouble even watching or listening to her on a regular basis because the point of view of the program is so skewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    I'm the biggest cheering section and fan of Olbermann that you'll find. Absolutely no: hate or "venom" is not Olbermann. Only during his "Special Comments" does he display anger-rightful anger by being betrayed by our government-but never "venom" and hatred.

    Yes, Savage hates. Yes, Colter hates. Yes, Limbaugh hates. Yes, Ingraham hates. No, Olbermann does not hate. Simply watch his show for a night and you won't ses a rage filled person.
    He looked pretty rage filled on the clip. Not to mention pompous, arrogant and self righteous. Maybe he was just faking it for effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    I'm the biggest cheering section and fan of Olbermann that you'll find. Absolutely no: hate or "venom" is not Olbermann. Only during his "Special Comments" does he display anger-rightful anger by being betrayed by our government-but never "venom" and hatred.

    Yes, Savage hates. Yes, Colter hates. Yes, Limbaugh hates. Yes, Ingraham hates. No, Olbermann does not hate. Simply watch his show for a night and you won't ses a rage filled person.
    I suppose you find him the epitome of objectivity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    No one has yet to prove me wrong on this open challenge that I've had for two years: Watch the show and find an instance where he provided something false or exaggerated. Can't be done.

    Olbermann is truly a trained journalist. He has bias, sure, but bias does not mean wrong or inaccurate. All of us have bias. We can still report facts.
    When you refuse to acknowledge calling the President "a cold blooded killer" to be either false or even an exaggeration, you reveal to all your total lack of objectivity on politial punditry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tight-Waist View Post
    When you refuse to acknowledge calling the President "a cold blooded killer" to be either false or even an exaggeration, you reveal to all your total lack of objectivity on politial punditry.
    Again, making a comment when you never even heard what Olbermann said.

    I'm not the sharpest blade in the drawer but even I know that when I'm going to claim something entirely out of my ass to-all the while questioning someone else's credibility-I better damned well have credibility myself, or at least act like I have credibility.

    This could be the most comical-if you can call it that (sad maybe?)-post that you've written, and you've written some doozies!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    Again, making a comment when you never even heard what Olbermann said.

    I'm not the sharpest blade in the drawer but even I know that when I'm going to claim something entirely out of my ass to-all the while questioning someone else's credibility-I better damned well have credibility myself, or at least act like I have credibility.

    This could be the most comical-if you can call it that (sad maybe?)-post that you've written, and you've written some doozies!
    This is from the horse's mouth...
    Last Wednesday, I quoted the phrase to say that Mr. Bush had now also given America "cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives."


    I identified them as Mr. Bush's personnel "those in or formerly in your employ, who may yet be charged some day with war crimes." I also described the chaos of post-invasion Iraq, with "an American viceroy, enforced by merciless mercenaries who shoot unarmed Iraqis and then evade prosecution in any country by hiding behind" Mr. Bush's skirts.
    No writer nor broadcaster is ever as clear and precise as he thinks he is.
    Television goes by quickly and the viewer is not provided a copy of a script.
    So it is possible that reasonable viewers might have been confused by exactly to whom I referred, especially considering I edited the original line: "Mr. Bush, at long last, has it not dawned on you that the America you have now created, includes cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives? They are called your cabinet. And your Pentagon."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tight-Waist View Post
    This is from the horse's mouth...
    Last Wednesday, I quoted the phrase to say that Mr. Bush had now also given America "cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives."


    I identified them as Mr. Bush's personnel "those in or formerly in your employ, who may yet be charged some day with war crimes." I also described the chaos of post-invasion Iraq, with "an American viceroy, enforced by merciless mercenaries who shoot unarmed Iraqis and then evade prosecution in any country by hiding behind" Mr. Bush's skirts.
    No writer nor broadcaster is ever as clear and precise as he thinks he is.
    Television goes by quickly and the viewer is not provided a copy of a script.
    So it is possible that reasonable viewers might have been confused by exactly to whom I referred, especially considering I edited the original line: "Mr. Bush, at long last, has it not dawned on you that the America you have now created, includes cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives? They are called your cabinet. And your Pentagon."
    And?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tight-Waist View Post
    When you refuse to acknowledge calling the President "a cold blooded killer" to be either false or even an exaggeration, you reveal to all your total lack of objectivity on politial punditry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tight-Waist View Post
    This is from the horse's mouth...
    Last Wednesday, I quoted the phrase to say that Mr. Bush had now also given America "cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives."


    I identified them as Mr. Bush's personnel "those in or formerly in your employ, who may yet be charged some day with war crimes." I also described the chaos of post-invasion Iraq, with "an American viceroy, enforced by merciless mercenaries who shoot unarmed Iraqis and then evade prosecution in any country by hiding behind" Mr. Bush's skirts.
    No where in that quote you gave does Olberman call the President a "cold blooded killer" as the top statement of yours reads.

    That's why ban was questioning how you ever came up with that.

    Sometimes when we get emotionally involved in a discussion we lose our objectivity and our reading comprehension skils diminish as well.

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