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BonnieJ2 · 05-19-2008, 06:22 PM

I have to say as a parent, when you find yourself shouting you've probably lost control of the situation.

To shout down a speaker is just rude. When I was in college I heard speaker who was heckled say "If I wanted to hear from an a**hole, I'd fart."

ban basketball · 05-19-2008, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by BonnieJ2

I have to say as a parent, when you find yourself shouting you've probably lost control of the situation.

To shout down a speaker is just rude. When I was in college I heard speaker who was heckled say "If I wanted to hear from an a**hole, I'd fart."

Rude, maybe, but I don't want it outlawed.

(You were not implying that though. I know).

Throwby · 05-19-2008, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by ban basketball

What do you propose that we do to stop this? Should it be outlawed?

I believe they should be removed from the immediate premise (or allowed to leave peacefully) and if they are willing to continue their protest without disruption that's fine. If they continue in childish behavior they need to be booked.

therick · 05-20-2008, 03:34 AM

I won't get into the free speech debate.

I'll just say that in watching Olberman's speech, I found myself agreeing with almost every word. He was a little over dramatic, and maybe took things a little to far in some of the names he called Bush and his minions, but he was dead on in the spirit of his words.

Tight-Waist · 05-20-2008, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by therick

I won't get into the free speech debate.

I'll just say that in watching Olberman's speech, I found myself agreeing with almost every word. He was a little over dramatic, and maybe took things a little to far in some of the names he called Bush and his minions, but he was dead on in the spirit of his words.

I put Olberman in the same class as Michael Savage. Neither offer anything but pure hate for the other side.

therick · 05-20-2008, 01:47 PM

I can see how you would think that. However, in this instance, he didn't call the President out on anything that isn't obvious to anyone as being a mistake, or a severe misstep.

The level of venom was over the top, but the issues he brought up are completely valid.

Tight-Waist · 05-20-2008, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by therick

I can see how you would think that. However, in this instance, he didn't call the President out on anything that isn't obvious to anyone as being a mistake, or a severe misstep.

The level of venom was over the top, but the issues he brought up are completely valid.

Frankly the same could be said of Savage, who I probably agree with on ocassion but I cant stand. I dont mind the issues being brought up thats their job, but the vitriol of these two makes them impossible to listen to.

I'd love to lock 'em both in a dark closet and give each a can of mace and a dull knife.

ban basketball · 05-20-2008, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by therick

I can see how you would think that. However, in this instance, he didn't call the President out on anything that isn't obvious to anyone as being a mistake, or a severe misstep.

The level of venom was over the top, but the issues he brought up are completely valid.

I'm the biggest cheering section and fan of Olbermann that you'll find. Absolutely no: hate or "venom" is not Olbermann. Only during his "Special Comments" does he display anger-rightful anger by being betrayed by our government-but never "venom" and hatred.

Yes, Savage hates. Yes, Colter hates. Yes, Limbaugh hates. Yes, Ingraham hates. No, Olbermann does not hate. Simply watch his show for a night and you won't ses a rage filled person.

matclone · 05-20-2008, 02:22 PM

Even if Olberman doesn't hate (hate ala Limbaugh is generally reserved to those who have little or no power), would you say he exaggerates? My complaint, in general, about so many of the things we see on network television or radio, is their single-minded statements--as if they're in a debate, or in a courtroom, or a commercial--and it's their job to convince their audience of a certain point of view--with no ambiguities or complexities allowed. Even ESPN does this in their commentaries. There's a time and place for that stuff, but it doesn't belong all the time--especially with respect to complex political questions.

ban basketball · 05-20-2008, 02:23 PM

Speaking of Olbermann, last night was a special show in regards to this post.

As some of you may know, the traveling chorus within the republican party tried to deliberately persuade people that Olbermann meant something in his initial Special Comment that all of us knew he never meant.

Here is the P.S. to that Special Comment "clarifying" what he said. You'll find the link on the front page, "Clarifying the Special Comment." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

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