Re: A vote for McCain is a vote against wrestling

**~~slayer~~** · 05-15-2008, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Tight-Waist

Earth to Big..... Earth to Big

Title IX and its current interpretation was in place long long before this war started.

And if you believe it will be changed in anyway that favors men's wrestling or any other men's sport under the ultra liberal Obasma; I got a couple of bridges to sell you.

Face it, its your LIBERALS who gave us Title IX in the first place!

DIE LIBERAL SCUM!!! YOU LIBERALS SHOULD JUST DIE AND LEAVE US PATRIOTS TO RUN OUR OWN DAMN COUNTRY. GO TO CUBA YOU LIBERAL SCUM.

Regards,
Mr. Civil

**Zapp Brannigan** · 05-15-2008, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Big

I only care about facts and the fact is McCain's place is dropping wrestling, not University of Illinois or Cornell/Hofstra.

Seriously, you're not even trying anymore. Big has jumped the shark.

**contini** · 05-15-2008, 08:43 PM

Big, you lost this one.

**Big** · 05-15-2008, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by contini

Big, you lost this one.

I didn't lose anything. You people are freaking brainwashed. The article clearly states its a money issue. Perhaps McCain could re-direct a million or two from Iraq to Arizona State!

Elect McCain and he will close all sports "IN TIME OF WAR".

In response to economic realities experienced over a long period of time, Arizona State University today announced the discontinuation of three varsity sports programs, effective immediately. The sport programs affected are men's swimming, men's tennis and wrestling. ASU President Michael Crow and Vice President for University Athletics Lisa Love made the announcement. With the budget cuts the University is facing, Intercollegiate Athletics cannot expect the University to make up the difference.

http://www.intermatwrestle.com/news/...y.aspx?ID=7262

**Zapp Brannigan** · 05-15-2008, 10:11 PM

An astonishingly bad failure, Big. You couldn't even TRY to make an argument that would make sense here. Jensen has already destroyed your total argument.

**Big** · 05-15-2008, 10:37 PM

I don't really care. The more college programs get dropped the better. More wrestlers will concentrate on FR and GR.

**sgallan** · 05-15-2008, 10:42 PM

It is liberals like you (my apologies to liberals everywhere) that enacted Title IX that has caused wrestling to be cut to begin with you DOLT!

Lets not overplay your hand here. When T-9 was enacted it was very much needed. Women in sports were treated abysmally. This was the early 70's mind you. Where it is an issue now is that it is no longer the 70's, and there have been unintended consequences. For you to suggest that 'something' wasn't necessary in the beginning, is the exact reason that T-9 lives in a strong way today.

FWIW, I am furious with what happened to ASU. So much so I intend to inflict as much damage as I can on that institution and especially it's sports department. But I have also been in enough "women wrestling" arguments to know there are plenty of neanderthal types out there that suggest the need for something. Basically T-9 tweaked to meet the modern world. If you are suggesting there wasn't some sort of need to begin with, then you are part of the problem, and not part of the solution.

FWIW, the ASU situation is more of a budget situation dealing with ASU buying out a coach, in order to get a new coach, and that buy out in a tight budget is problematic. Basically they are selling their "soul" to attempt to bolster a "name" sport without giving a crap about the student/athletes. Another University whose priorities are not academics, but the big ticket sports.

**contini** · 05-15-2008, 10:43 PM

McCain is obviously he most informed about the issue (see JensenS' article). Both Hillary and Obama think that Bush was attacking title IX, which shows a very superficial knowledge of what had happened. Bush's panel for studying title IX was essentially a waste of time and effort, because he set it up in a way that any suggested real changes were doomed to failure (i.e. they required unanimous support, which was impossible because several committee members were hardcore pro-title IX proponents).

It's pretty clear Hillary isn't going to budge. Perhaps Obama would be more open to changing his opinion if he would make time to hear out the other side (one can only conjecture). OTOH, McCain is already on our side.

**Big** · 05-15-2008, 10:48 PM

Nice side . Why doesn't he give ASU some money to keep wrestling? His beer-barbie has some stashed away. This is his state!

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