Big

Space records and wrestling records for one will never be forgotten.

Cyclone85

Oh my God. Are you talking about the Stalin of the USSR? That Stalin? Nobody -- and I mean nobody -- has butchered more people, enslaved more people, and ethnically cleansed more people, than that red faced butcher of human flesh, Stalin. He is credited by every historian worth his weight in salt to have murdered 20,000,000 people at a minimum. Not even the Japanese army which was considered the most ruthless and barbaric in history (having slaughtered millions of Asians of many countries (particularly the Chinese), could cut down 20,000,000. The Chinese (to this *VERY* day) are demanding an apology from Japan for the ruthless and barbaric murder of innocent citizens. The people (including pregnant women, and little children) were murdered -- entire villages wiped out with thousands of Japanese soldiers with swords. They did it the old fashioned way --- they hacked and cut people with battle axes and swords. Japan has not apologized to this day which is why tensions remain so high in that area. The Chinese hate the Japanese today for the acts committed 70 years ago. The barbarous Japanese can't even claim oneupmanship with Russia. Russia has the title my friend as the most evil empire in modern history.

And Stalin did not save the world from Hitler. Russia was pissed that the tiny little heroin addict with a bad comb over and his icky mustache double-crossed them by violating the non-aggression treaty. Russia was not noble in this endeavor to get Hitler. On their way to Berlin, they ethnically cleansed up to a million on the way. Bodies and skulls stacked hundreds high -- nice job out of Stalin. God only knows when they had time to kill 20,000,000.

Nice country Russia is. 143,000,000 most of whom live in extreme poverty thanks to 80-years of communism, enslavement, and the suppression of individual freedoms. This is the fault of the Russian government -- not of the Russian people. But by God, the government of Russia supports Iran with their development of nuclear weaponry (I mean, reactors). They sell them supercavitating torpedoes (under water missiles) that represent a threat to the entire U.S. Naval forces (for which there is no defense against). They sell technically sophisticated weaponry to every nation on earth that is hostile to every American interest. And to top it all off, Russia and the little football faced pock marked bastard in Venezuela are in love with each other. They have all kinds of agreements in place to squeeze America further with energy problems and huge military problems. Russia -- awash with $125 oil money has quadrupled military spending and is forging alliances with every dictator in the world. Believe me now and listen to be later, but these people will have to be dealt with in your and my lifetime.

But that's Ok -- Obama will cut military spending by 40% like Clinton did and we'll be just fine.

Why is it that so many people suffer from the Stockholm Syndrome as it relates to our country? They side with those that are willing to knife your throat and drink from your skull, rather than adoring the country that represents the last great hope to mankind. No country on earth has spilled more blood on behalf of other country's freedoms than the United States. Russia has not shown itself as a great country over the last 100-years. The only things Russia gave to the world in the 20th century was the barbarism of millions, communism, and terror.

Big

Cyclone,

Your statement sickens me to the core as well. You are probably one of those Christians whose religion butchered pagans during Middle Ages.

Cyclone85

Yes, but I am right, and you're wrong. You're on the wrong side of history man; that's not the place to be. My statements are correct. An American should not be propping up the worst regime in modern history. Maybe Russia can correct themselves, but I don't see any evidence yet.

And who is talking about religion in this thread. I didn't. Why are you bringing up counter-revolutions from hundreds of years ago?

Big

You have your story and I have mine. I don't follow any ideologies and to me Stalin did many positive things in a very tough time for that place of the World. McCain is not even 1/100 the man Stalin was.

UGLY

Keep grasping at those straws Big. Also if you want to call a nation great and all you can say is it has space and wrestling records just don't say anything. That is the most ridiculuos argument for calling a country great.

I am sure you are sickened to hear the truth about your beloved Russia. That is stuff I am sure they don't teach you in Russian school, it is all positive over there no negative about the country.

Cyclone85

Look, I am not out to make myself an enemy of yours. However, you are defending the indefensible which is odd to me. Stalin was murdered for his barbarism, it's unlikely McCain will be remembered in the same breath as Stalin (or murdered), which is a good thing. McCain isn't dead yet, and he could still do some good things with his life.

Hitler did some good things too, like -- I don't know, picking up a toddler and not killing it. That's a good thing. I'm sure Stalin gave his nephews little lollipops that weren't laced with ricin; that's also a good thing too. But history has clearly shown that Russia was not a very good corporate citizen of the 20th century; those are some very dark pages in the book of history. The Gorb tried, however, Putin and his minion I don't trust. Russia can start by showing some goodwill to its neighbors by allowing the free flow of natural gas to countries that desperately need it -- instead of stopping the flow of it or quadrupling the price.

After that, Russia can stop arming and providing nuclear technology to the little Hitler in elevator (shoes) in Iran. For some really weird Reason, Russia wants the little tiny dictator in Iran to have nuclear weapons...oops, reactors. Now to me -- that is really strange when viewed against the backdrop of his statement where he wants Israel wiped off the face of the earth. Russia and China could really help everybody out by not helping Iran in this endeavor.

Then I'll re-think my position.

matclone

I didn't know Stalin was murdered. I thought he died of a stroke.

matclone

I've heard that some of this problem exists in the U.S. as well. On the other hand, if you hold "the truth", there's probably not much Big can argue about.

Cyclone85

Well, I probably shouldn't have said that because it hasn't been proven. I think the general feeling is that he was murdered. The History Channel did a big story about it and joint American/Russian historians announced in 2003 that he likely ingested warfarin; a powerful tasteless poison that produces stroke-like death. The History Channel documentary (as I remember it), pointed in the same direction.

It is definitely true that his guards were under order to not 'bother him' even though they thought it was odd he didn't awaken at his normal time, on that fateful day.