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Old 05-09-2008, 07:22 PM   #61 (permalink)
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BTW, here are the popular vote totals: RealClearPolitics - 2008 Elections - Democratic Vote Count

No matter how you slice it, Obama is in the lead. Even if you count states like Michigan where he was not on the ballot (which is obviously entirely unfair to Obama). So Hillary's mathematics just do not add up.
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:41 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Now she's doing a bang up job of trying to divide the democratic base into white versus black...............................

Clinton's diminishing of black voters
By Derrick Z. Jackson, Globe Columnist | May 10, 2008

IN HER long, sad self-diminution to being merely a white candidate for subsegments of white people, Hillary Clinton claimed to USA Today this week, "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on." Clinton exploited an Associated Press poll to say how "Senator Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me . . . There's a pattern emerging here."

This was on top of Democratic strategist and Clinton supporter Paul Begala saying this week on CNN, "We cannot win with eggheads and African-Americans. OK. That's the Dukakis coalition, which carried 10 states and gave us four years of the first George Bush. President Clinton, you know, reached across and got a whole lot of Republicans and independents to come."

Clinton's diminishing of black voters - The Boston Globe

The portion of the quote that I highlighted is pretty interesting. Does she mean that black Americans aren't hard working?
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:54 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I'm sure she doesn't mean that, or think that. She is obviously trying to appeal to that group sometimes called Reagan democrats (a euphemism for white, blue collar people who had traditionally voted for Democrats). It's funny, before Obama actually gained some steam in the election (which was not very long ago at all), Clinton was considered popular with black voters.
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Old 05-10-2008, 11:08 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Apparently there is more than one writer who's a little taken aback by her statement.

Seeds of Destruction
By BOB HERBERT
The Clintons have never understood how to exit the stage gracefully.

Their repertoire has always been deficient in grace and class. So there was Hillary Clinton cold-bloodedly asserting to USA Today that she was the candidate favored by “hard-working Americans, white Americans,” and that her opponent, Barack Obama, the black candidate, just can’t cut it with that crowd.

“There’s a pattern emerging here,” said Mrs. Clinton.

There is, indeed. There was a name for it when the Republicans were using that kind of lousy rhetoric to good effect: it was called the Southern strategy, although it was hardly limited to the South. Now the Clintons, in their desperation to find some way — any way — back to the White House, have leapt aboard that sorry train.

He can’t win! Don’t you understand? He’s black! He’s black!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/op...10herbert.html
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After the way she pounced on Obama for his choice of the word "bitter" and for the negative nuance of "cling", you'd think she'd be a little more careful in choosing words.
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CNN's lead story right now (nice photo):


Obama cuts Clinton's superdelegate lead to 1
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Originally Posted by BonnieJ2 View Post
CNN's lead story right now (nice photo):


Obama cuts Clinton's superdelegate lead to 1
All it's missing is a picture of Billy wagging his little finger at Obama with a caption like "you need to know your place boy".
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Originally Posted by BonnieJ2 View Post
After the way she pounced on Obama for his choice of the word "bitter" and for the negative nuance of "cling", you'd think she'd be a little more careful in choosing words.

That's exactly what I was thinking.
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I'm worried that Obama is not battling on enough in W. Virginia. I don't want this thing to be close. I want Hillary out without any type of crazy math she can use to try to argue that she is still in it. Obama should not be looking beyond. He should take the Ray Kroc attitude: "When your competition is drowning, get a hose, turn it on and put it in their mouth".
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I'm worried that Obama is not battling on enough in W. Virginia. I don't want this thing to be close. I want Hillary out without any type of crazy math she can use to try to argue that she is still in it. Obama should not be looking beyond. He should take the Ray Kroc attitude: "When your competition is drowning, get a hose, turn it on and put it in their mouth".
What I find real interesting from her is how she unabashedly plays the female card. I guess it's OK for her to play the poor, mistreated woman but if Obama was to play the race card it would be a whole different story.

Just looking at her makes me want to Chuck Lunch.
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