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    I don't know that I'd look at it that way. I took from it, that this man feels that immigration isn't the best way for the US to help those in need. I think that American foreign policy in general toward 3rd world countries needs to be completely revamped. We seem to deal with them only because of what we can get from them, as opposed to what we can help them do for themselves. There seems to be almost a protective element to our policy, in which we purposely keep the 3rd world countries down so that we have one less competitor on the world stage. Of course, then we also have the bad habit of going in and telling them how to govern themselves, as though our way is the only way.
    I should say that i do not think this is a very important argument for immigration. But he says we should not allow immigration b/c it is not an effective aid for 3rd world issues. However, if we are in fact helping poor people by allowing them to live here (as he implies), and it is good to help poor people, all his argument shows is that we ought to allow more poor people to live here (until we are counter-productive in doing so) AND help other poor countries. Put it this way, if I am not hungry, and there is a group of hungry children, and i have only enough to feed one of them, I am not required to do nothing, I am required to do something fairly (flip a coin, or something else impartial).

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    Default Re: The problems with current immigration (illegal & legal) in the USA

    Quote Originally Posted by _SL_ View Post
    I should say that i do not think this is a very important argument for immigration. But he says we should not allow immigration b/c it is not an effective aid for 3rd world issues. However, if we are in fact helping poor people by allowing them to live here (as he implies), and it is good to help poor people, all his argument shows is that we ought to allow more poor people to live here (until we are counter-productive in doing so) AND help other poor countries. Put it this way, if I am not hungry, and there is a group of hungry children, and i have only enough to feed one of them, I am not required to do nothing, I am required to do something fairly (flip a coin, or something else impartial).
    I agree, that we have an obligation to help those in need. Just as each of us, should do what we can to help even if it's just something small.

    I guess that's why this whole issue is so difficult to get a handle on. There is no way to help everyone who needs help, and there are many ways to try to help. So, at some point a decision needs to be make about who to help and with how much money and in what way. In the end there's no way to make everyone happy, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to help as many as possible.

    In the end, I'm of the opinion that as long as they're willing to work and be productive members of society, then why not let them come. Most if not all of the immigrants I come in contact with, both at work (we have a huge number of africans and hispanics here) and in my daily life are very hard working people just trying to make it in the world and hoping to give their children a better life. I have nothing but respect for what they go through in order to come here, learn a language, a culture, a trade, etc.

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