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Old 05-06-2008, 12:18 PM   #81 (permalink)
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It was YOU I was quoting.
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What really is at issue here? Is it the legal status? I don't know how it could be, as we all break the law and we all ignore illegal actions from those whom we like.

Furthermore, we were perfectly comfortable with illegally taking the U.S. from the American Indians and breaking treaties with them.

So, why such strong, virulent opposition?
The opposition has been explained to you over and over an over. The fact that you still do not understand proves you have tuned out that which you do not want to hear.

So why do you even bother to post on this thread.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:59 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ban basketball
What really is at issue here? Is it the legal status? I don't know how it could be, as we all break the law and we all ignore illegal actions from those whom we like.

Furthermore, we were perfectly comfortable with illegally taking the U.S. from the American Indians and breaking treaties with them.

So, why such strong, virulent opposition?
The opposition has been explained to you over and over an over. The fact that you still do not understand proves you have tuned out that which you do not want to hear.

So why do you even bother to post on this thread.
By saying this...

"The opposition has been explained to you over and over an over. The fact that you still do not understand proves you have tuned out that which you do not want to hear.

So why do you even bother to post on this thread."

...how is that quoting me, as you claimed?
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:03 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but I've only read the first two pages and already need clarification, what is the original point of the thread?

Is it that all immigrations laws should be removed so there are no restriction to immigration?

Is it that immigration laws are too strict and should be revised by easing restrictions?

Or is this a conversation about social perceptions and the treatment of any immigrant irrespective if they have entered the country by following the current immigration laws or not?
I'd say your third option is clearly the closest to the orginal intent of this thread. But only Ban can say for sure.
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:06 PM   #85 (permalink)
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matclone, BB and Chance, thank you for your answers. I don't know much about illegal immigration to the US and you guys have been helpful.

You're welcome.

One thing we need to do that I forgot to mention, is to take a look at NAFTA and the other so-called free trade treaties and proposals, since those are arguably a major cause of the migration. One thing that's happening is that U.S. subsidized corn is flooding the Mexican market and putting farmers there out of business. Other foreign policy has some effect as well.
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My "intent" is stated in the original post. I had no intention, per se, just providing a vantage point on the link between anti-immigrant sentiment and the results of this sentiment.
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Thanks ban. I read your title and first post but the direction of dialogue made me ask.

Matclone, how have you been? I hope well. Take good care. pm
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If you legalize all that are here already whats to stop the next wave of people wanting to get their piece of amnesty? Do we not, as a nation of laws, have the right to determine who,what, and how many foreigners that we allow into this country? We allow well over a million people per year to become residents legally, that is a major city per year...when is enough?
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:52 AM   #89 (permalink)
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Oh the horribleness of it all. I think this whole world should be a socialists society. Let all of our money go to the government for a world-wide distribution. Then, the only thing ban would complain about is telling Irish jokes.
As opposed to your wish for a fascist state?

I forgot about how I was made out to be the bad guy by you bigots for opposing ethnic jokes. How's that for twisted logic, eh? I'm trying to show decency and respect for people (Like Jesus did ), and was made out to be the most dangerous person since, well, ctc!
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:07 AM   #90 (permalink)
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"If you legalize all that are here already whats to stop the next wave of people wanting to get their piece of amnesty?"

-What's to stop them from wanting it or getting it? There is a big difference between people already here and people who may want to come here in the future.

"Do we not, as a nation of laws, have the right to determine who,what, and how many foreigners that we allow into this country?"

-We do have that right, and we chose to allow a ton of people in. Now people want to throw them out to get a sense of revenge instead of looking at it from a practical perspective.

"We allow well over a million people per year to become residents legally, that is a major city per year...when is enough?"

-When the market says it's enough, or are you in favor of letting big government over regulate the labor market?
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