Wow Some people really hate Bush

Chance174 · 04-24-2008, 05:27 PM

I have read about far left liberals protesting funerals and their hate Bush speach but I never thought I would hear about something like this.

A Bush protester hits a girl in a wheelchair.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352498,00.html

ISU2008 · 04-24-2008, 06:23 PM

I'd say it's more like "Wow some people are really stupid" not that that's a surprise to anyone. You can find people like this who hate any person you can name. I'll admit I'm not a big Bush fan but this guy is a complete moron.

Tight-Waist · 04-25-2008, 12:59 PM

I remember after the OKC Bombing that Clinton and others blamed "rightwingradio" for the "climate of hate" they "generated" that fueled the hatred that McVeigh unleashed.

matclone · 04-25-2008, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Chance174

I have read about far left liberals protesting funerals and their hate Bush speach but I never thought I would hear about something like this.

A Bush protester hits a girl in a wheelchair.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352498,00.html

Does it ever occur to you to question your news sources? Note the qualifier "alleged" in the story.

Are you familiar with the marketing concept of a target market? Do you suppose Fox News or any other major media source ever thinks about or shapes their product to a target market?

Why is this story important, other than to make people angry (on uncertain facts) about people on the other side (assuming we all are either a Hatfield or a McCoy). Why is this story important to you?

Chance174 · 04-25-2008, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by matclone

Does it ever occur to you to question your news sources? Note the qualifier "alleged" in the story.

Are you familiar with the marketing concept of a target market? Do you suppose Fox News or any other major media source ever thinks about or shapes their product to a target market?

Why is this story important, other than to make people angry (on uncertain facts) about people on the other side (assuming we all are either a Hatfield or a McCoy). Why is this story important to you?

Clone,

Yes I read the "alleged" portion of the story. That is good reporting and the way it should be. Most reporters use the "alleged" wording because the person has not been convicted of anything yet. I also understand the marketing concept of a target market. It doesn't take a genius to fingure out that certain media outlets report on different stories in order to keep their base.

I posted this story to show how stupid people can be. I honestly didn't expect a lot of responses to this. However, ISU's response was perfect.

If you don't like the story or you think that it is not important then that is fine. I personally don't care. If you think it was to bring on a fight and to divide people then that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

I have read a lot of ISU2008 post and I don't agree with 90% of them when it comes to politics. However his response to this was great!! He was 100% right.

FloggingSully · 04-25-2008, 03:20 PM

"I have read about far left liberals protesting funerals"

-I thought it was mostly right-wing christians who were protesting funerals...

Chance174 · 04-25-2008, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by FloggingSully

"I have read about far left liberals protesting funerals"

-I thought it was mostly right-wing christians who were protesting funerals...

You know what...i think you are right. I was thinking of something totally different.

I don't agree with them either!

FloggingSully · 04-25-2008, 03:26 PM

"I don't agree with them either!"

I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who agrees with them.

matclone · 04-25-2008, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Chance174

Clone,

Yes I read the "alleged" portion of the story. That is good reporting and the way it should be. Most reporters use the "alleged" wording because the person has not been convicted of anything yet.

In the present instance, "alleged" can just as likely mean "we cannot verify the story, but someone said...". Your scenario (no conviction) is premised on someone being charged with a crime. There is no evidence of a charge being filed in the Fox story. Oh, I take it back. He reportedly was arrested. There is no evidence of the girl being damaged.

Here's what Fox said: "The next thing he [the father of the girl] knew, Talis was allegedly punching Maureen,"

How can he both "know" and at the same time say someone "allegedly punched"? Doublespeak at its finest.

Originally Posted by Chance174

I posted this story to show how stupid people can be.
I honestly didn't expect a lot of responses to this. However, ISU's response was perfect.

I fully agree it would be stupid to hit a girl in a wheelchair. But you really don't know this happened. I would suggest to you, based on this story, that it (the punching of a girl with cerebral palsy in a wheelchair by a Bush heckler) likely did not happen at all.

Originally Posted by Chance174

If you think it was to bring on a fight and to divide people then that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

That's exactly what I think is happening. Thank you for recognizing my point of view. Some don't/can't.

ban basketball · 04-26-2008, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by FloggingSully

"I don't agree with them either!"

I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who agrees with them.

As for their protesting of soldiers' funerals, yes, few would agree.

However, I've argued for years that their protest of gay people-that is this group's primary target-is perfectly in cahoots with many Americans. They say exactly what many say about gay people, minus the protests at AIDS vitims's funerals, which they were doing long before they ever protested at soldier's funerals. It was only when soldiers became a target that our society became aware of them and angry at what they do.

Up until that time, heck, it was just "those weirdos" (gays) so we didn't find their actions repulsive.

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