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    In a more socialist country there is less need to own that house or get a bigger one because people value houses as an investment to have some money for stability. Also, other things like consumerism is largely a function of the capitalist propaganda to get whatever you want so that corporations can make a profit.

    When we lived in Soviet Union my mother wouldn't even think of having her own house even though they could get one. "All that work around the house is too much" she used to say. Here she bought a house. Who could blame her when she had an apartment in Russia almost for free?

    I bet fewer people would want a house if rents were 5 times less..

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    What does my mother do in her free time? She spends it at Home Depot to buy things for the house! LOL.

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    I bet fewer people would want a house if rents were 5 times less..

    I'll bet that there would be far fewer homes/apartments available for rent if rents were five times less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    I bet fewer people would want a house if rents were 5 times less..

    I'll bet that there would be far fewer homes/apartments available for rent if rents were five times less.
    That is a different topic. I am simply pointing out how problems arise with freedom.

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    By the way the shortage of sensible housing is similar in communism and in capitalism. The difference is capitalists invented mortgage, credit cards, equity loans and so on. That is why we have this mortgage mess, record debt and so on.

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    "When we lived in Soviet Union my mother wouldn't even think of having her own house even though they could get one. "All that work around the house is too much" she used to say"
    -So people don't own their houses, what's the motivation for maintaining the houses and keeping them in good condition? Have you ever read The Tragedy of the Commons"
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    Wrong! All houses were private. Apartments were owned by the government.

    You could get a piece of land almost for free. Then build on it at your own pace. People usually built a tiny place to sleep in and then built a big house by hiring workers. If you had the money you could get a house right away.

    The difference is that Americans are not certain of their future unless they have a house to sell and stocks and so on. In a communist/socialist society you know your country will take care of you if you are old or sick so there is no need to have all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    In a more socialist country there is less need to own that house or get a bigger one because people value houses as an investment to have some money for stability. Also, other things like consumerism is largely a function of the capitalist propaganda to get whatever you want so that corporations can make a profit.

    When we lived in Soviet Union my mother wouldn't even think of having her own house even though they could get one. "All that work around the house is too much" she used to say. Here she bought a house. Who could blame her when she had an apartment in Russia almost for free?

    I bet fewer people would want a house if rents were 5 times less..
    Big, your first assumption that homes are bought as a stability vehicle is off base. Usually, homes are bought to live in. One of the perks to buying your own over renting is that the money you put into it is still yours, called equity. Of course, you will lose some to interest if you take out a mortgage, but at today's rates, that is only 5.25% or so. You essentially take money out of your right pants pocket and put it in your left pants pocket. If you rent, you build no equity and you lose 100% of that money -- you take money out of your right pants pocket and give it to someone else.

    Remember, also, that "consumerism" is a choice -- no one forces you to do or buy anything. Those decisions are willingly made by individuals. Our society allows you the freedom to buy everything, buy nothing, or any combination in between.

    If rents were 5 times less, you can bet that houses would be 5 times less. When you rent, you are paying someone else's mortgage for them. Why not pay your own mortgage and keep the equity?

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    "In a communist/socialist society you know your country will take care of you if you are old or sick so there is no need to have all that"

    -You sound like you're describing welfare, medicare and medicaid.
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