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    I didn't know the Pope's purpose was to make Big's fuel bill lower.

    Well not specifically, but Popes do try to preach things which make the human condition better. As one who is struggling with bills.... a lower fuel bill.... while not solving all of my problems.... would help make my specific condition of my family better.
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    Yes, if the Pope is able to rid the world of abortions, birth control, stem cell research, gay rights and euthanasia, I'm sure all our lives will be much better . . . and maybe he'll put in a good word for all the non-Catholics in the world so they don't go to hell.
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    Maybe he could rid the world of gasoline, so we wouldn't have to spend ANY money on it!

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    Yes, if the Pope is able to rid the world of abortions, birth control, stem cell research, gay rights and euthanasia, I'm sure all our lives will be much better . . . and maybe he'll put in a good word for all the non-Catholics in the world so they don't go to hell.

    Especially this Pope. And he will say all of this. But it will be lost amongst the hoopla because that guy is the leader of a billion plus people. Most of whom - even if they are liberal - believe somewhere within their being - he is the closest person to God. So, as a political necessity you kiss his ring, and then let him be the Pope. That is just smart politics..... nationally and geopolitically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I don't really care about the Pope or Bush. They can talk about prayers and faith and abortion until they turn blue but the price of gas will still be high.
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    I am sensing a little dis-like for the Pontiff. He is a figure head of the largest Church in the world and the leader of the Vatican city and he is bound by the traditions of the Catholic Church. I don't think that he will half the leader Pope John Paul II was but that's fine. In reality he has no influence over governments like the Popes of the Past.

    The Pope can not waiver on Gay Rights and Abortion if he did it would send people off roof tops. He has to abide by what the Bible coupled with the Catholic interpretations and traditions tell him to abide to. He does not in my mind have the freedom to make up his own mind. With his position the Pope does do more good than harm I believe and should not be ridiculed for not standing against or for issues that some of us find important.

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    He's gotta do what he's gotta do, but I don't have to like it. If he believes in it and expects people to follow it (or go to hell), well he can just . . . no, I won't say it. If he doesn't believe in it but preaches it because he has to, shame on him, he should get another job.

    But seriously now that I've vented . . . I understand that if the Pope is to lead his flock and support the good that the Catholic church does do for some people, he must take certain stands. My big issue here (same song as always) is that what's good for Catholics isn't necessarily good for all Americans, and he has NO RIGHT to even imply how our government should be run. As I said earlier, his morality is very different from mine. Stick to religion and leave politics alone. (guess I'm still venting)
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    What's the porblem with letting this guy say whatever he wants?? He doesn't say these things because he has to or he is forced to -- he actually believes what he is saying!!! The job of Pope didn't just fall in his lap and he figured me should do what is expected of him. He has made up his mind that he likes living as he does.

    No one is forcing any of you to like what he says and no one is denouncing you for not believing the same as he does. For a bunch of people who say they want to protect religious and personal freedom, you seem to like telling the pope he is wrong. Just let him speak his piece and that is that. I find it disconcerting that there are more people in this country who denounce the pope, who ALWAYS preaches peace, than who denounce redical terrorists, who always preach violence.

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    "Saying he had come as a friend of the United States, Pope Benedict urged Americans and their leaders on Wednesday to base their political and social decisions on moral principles and create a more just society."

    I've got no problem with the Pope preaching to his followers. My ONLY problem is with the above quote. I'll say again that it is very presumptuous of him to tell us that we should govern our country based upon HIS moral principles. And I don't think that pregnant rape victims, terminally ill suffering patients, parkinson patients, or gay victims of hate crimes care much about his message of peace.
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