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    I actually agreed with Obama in this article. The fact that parents actually need to start raising their kids and not blaming others.

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080411/D8VVKG700.html

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    I think this point should also be made to white parents, so we get off this horseshit about lack of discipline or effort being exclusive to black people (or anyone different than us)--especially this nonsense phrase about "blaming others". I don't know too many parents who go around "blaming others" although I'm sure there are a few, but it makes for a nice rhetorical soundbite when we want to demean someone else--different than us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    I think this point should also be made to white parents, so we get off this horseshit about lack of discipline or effort being exclusive to black people (or anyone different than us)--especially this nonsense phrase about "blaming others". I don't know too many parents who go around "blaming others" although I'm sure there are a few, but it makes for a nice rhetorical soundbite when we want to demean someone else--different than us.
    Who was Bill Cosby trying to "demean" matty?

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    I agree, I really wasn't just thinking about black parents i was thinking of all parents

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    I think a lot of parents blame others...well where I grew up anyway. It always seemed by me to be either rich parents or very poor parents that blamed others for what their kids did.

    That is just my experience though.

    "so we get off this horseshit about lack of discipline or effort being exclusive to black people (or anyone different than us)--especially this nonsense phrase about "blaming others". I don't know too many parents who go around "blaming others" although I'm sure there are a few, but it makes for a nice rhetorical soundbite when we want to demean someone else--different than us."

    I know the article talked about how he was talking to a black audience...but i never said anything about black parents...i just said parents...

    Who was demeaning anyone? Are you talking about the article or my post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance174 View Post
    Who was demeaning anyone? Are you talking about the article or my post?
    Both. I mentioned in another thread Brokaw's comment that we talk about race in code. You used (if unintentionally) the magic code phrase "blaming others" that white people often use when talking about black people. You'll note that Obama didnt' use that phrase--at least it's not mentioned in the article.

    I was just highlighting and challenging the code concept that is out there and widely used in popular media (talk radio, cable TV, books such as Juan Williams' Enough). I wasn't focusing my criticism on you, Chance.

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    Gotcha...Sorry I misundersood your post

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    It was easily misunderstood since I wasn't very clear where I was coming from.

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    Capitalism is to blame. Parents work way too many hours to support the family and don't get enough time with their kids.

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