UGLY

Has anyone here read this book and if so should I buy it?

Tight-Waist

Only if you want to know just how different our current government is from what our forefathers envisioned.

UGLY

I would like to know that. So I think I will buy it.

matclone

If you already have a foregone conclusion as to what you'll find, why bother? On the other hand, if you want to learn something you maybe didn't know about American history, and the shaping of the U.S. Constitution, this is probably one of the best sources (caveat: I haven't read it myself)

I'm not one for electronic reading, but if you don't mind reading things that way...

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/histdox/fedpapers.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Papers

ccbig

Thanks for the links. More reading to add to my list as I get time!

cbw50

It is a must read

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I can't help but find it ironic how so many have come to hate Federalism (which, like it or lump it, is our form of government), yet we continue to gravitate toward the Federalist papers, quote them as gospel, and treat them as "days gone by."

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UGLY

So I bought the book and have come to the conclusion in the first three essays that these men were light years smarter than we are. Here is an example

"For, in politics as in religion, it is equally absurd to aim at making proselytes by fire and sword. Heresies in either can rarely be cured by persecution."

Alexander Hamilton Federalist #1

sgallan

So I bought the book and have come to the conclusion in the first three essays that these men were light years smarter than we are.

I think their inteligence could be found in the pragmatism they had. The sides could be as far apart as possible, yet had respect for, and knew that, others views were part of the process..... this even though the debate got so heated at times there were even life/death duals involved. In a polarized political environment, that is much a competition, as it is searching for good public policy, this sort of compromise, or meeting of minds, is much harder to come by. The ill effects of this set of unfortunate circumstances is heighted by a far more complex world of situations than of that time.

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furches

Keep shooting off some of the quotes. I haven't read all, but many quotes and parts of the FP. Could be great discussion, and certianly shows, I believe, intent in the forefathers thoughts.

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