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    Any cause he might have championed -- from something as morally simple as supporting the candidacy of fellow North Carolinian Harvey Gant, who lost two close Senate races against Satan's cousin, Jesse Helms, to any stand against any sort of American injustice--would have been taken seriously because it was endorsed by Jordan. Yet as careful as he has been at vacuuming every possible penny into his pocket... he has been equally diligent about leaving every bit of political potential on the table. Couldn't the world's greatest endorser have sold us something besides shoes? (Village Voice, January 27-February 5, 1999).

    I also read on a Forbes site that he is worth $300 Million.

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    I think you're missing my point.

    It's not just about the money. It's about being THE most influential celebrity role model in a community that is struggling badly.

    His voice will make a much bigger impact than his money.

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    Scott,

    You work with kids don't you?

    Ask any inner city kid which celebrity role model he admires.

    The majority will say Jordan and the rest will probably say some rapper like 50 cent.

    All I'm saying is that Jordan is in a unique position and I wish he would speak out more than he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ground&Pound View Post
    Any cause he might have championed -- from something as morally simple as supporting the candidacy of fellow North Carolinian Harvey Gant, who lost two close Senate races against Satan's cousin, Jesse Helms, to any stand against any sort of American injustice--would have been taken seriously because it was endorsed by Jordan. Yet as careful as he has been at vacuuming every possible penny into his pocket... he has been equally diligent about leaving every bit of political potential on the table. Couldn't the world's greatest endorser have sold us something besides shoes? (Village Voice, January 27-February 5, 1999).

    I also read on a Forbes site that he is worth $300 Million.

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    I think you're missing my point.

    It's not just about the money. It's about being THE most influential celebrity role model in a community that is struggling badly.

    His voice will make a much bigger impact than his money.
    No, I get your point, I just don't agree with it. There is a difference. I don't think his voice is quite as influential now as it was ten years ago, especially considering his recent legal issues. In America, we get to vote secretly. Many people are uneasy about sharing their political views, so if he doesn't want to campaign against Jesse Helms, or if he doesn't want to lend his image to a PSA, that is his business. He has done a great deal for the communities where he has played, so ease up.

    And I really don't understand the timing of this. Like I said, maybe 10 years ago, but now, he just went through a high profile divorce and paternity lawsuit (that ended up being thrown out.) He is not the icon that he used to be, even in Chicago. If he was in a PSA these days, there are quite a few people out there who would wonder why a philanderer was their TV screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ground&Pound View Post
    Scott,

    You work with kids don't you?

    Ask any inner city kid which celebrity role model he admires.

    The majority will say Jordan and the rest will probably say some rapper like 50 cent.

    All I'm saying is that Jordan is in a unique position and I wish he would speak out more than he does.
    I work with innercity kids, and Michael Jordan is not their hero. They love Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, and Fifty Cent is not even all that popular with them. Have you been in the innercity lately?

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    You work with kids don't you?

    It is because I work with kids that, dang.... I will take anything I can get. Where I live it is a losing battle most of the times. Anything good is, well...... good.
    I am 49, bald, ugly, and don't own a single cool thing. Kids like me though.

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    I'd say I work in the outer city that has some innercity kids thrown in.

    I was working with a group of middle school kids who had to do a research report on a famous person. Michael Jordan is always one of the most common people research.

    To be completely honest, we don't have books on Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony and definately not on 50.

    Anyway, I'm being critical of his action throughout his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ground&Pound View Post
    I'd say I work in the outer city that has some innercity kids thrown in.

    I was working with a group of middle school kids who had to do a research report on a famous person. Michael Jordan is always one of the most common people research.

    To be completely honest, we don't have books on Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony and definately not on 50.

    Anyway, I'm being critical of his action throughout his career.
    Well, I think that a lack of literature is to blame in that situation. I coach at a school in the innercity, and I work at an elementary school in one of the poorest suburbs around Chicago. Though they are impressed with Jordan, and we're definitely amazed when he came to our school to watch his sons play, he's their parent's player.

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    From Forbes magazine - 2007

    The 15 most influential celebrities...

    1. Oprah Winfrey
    2. Bono
    3. Michael Jordan

    That's higher than I would have predicted.

    Granted, I doubt the poll included many innercity youth.

    http://www.forbes.com/2007/10/23/cel...influence.html

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