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    Stalin was a big fan of wrestling. From what I read on the Russian site, there was only Greco before WWII in Russia. However, with emergence of freestyle on the World scene, Stalin ordered all the coaches to start developing freestyle at home as a show to other countries of Soviet strength.

    Stalin was especially fond of HWTS. Victory at HWT was considered by Stalin of utmost importance.

    When Satiev hurt his back, in one of the interviews Satiev says: "I went to the same place to get treatment as Stalin used to go" The treatment was excellent.

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    Yeah, I've heard of Beria. But to say Stalin "didn't know" sounds a lot like the arguments made by Bush apologists.

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    Was Stalin a big guy or did he just think that was the most prominent weight? Was he also as big a fan of Alexeev, the weightlifter?

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    Stalin knew sometimes what was going on but Beria and others told him that it was necessary and that people were much more dangerous than they were in reality sometimes.

    You have to realize Bush doesn't have to convince American people that American government is good. Bush takes care of National security. Stalin had to deal with people trying toi destroy the whole system.

    America didn't have to deal with Revolution, Civil war and losing nearly 30 million in WWII all in a period of 25 years.

    matclone, try to think in terms of the times.

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    Stalin wasn't a big guy but he felt HWTs were the biggest people so if they are winning, Soviet people look strong.

    Not sure about weightlifting but I wouldn't be surprised if he liked weightlifting as well.

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    Actually that was a dumb question about Aleexev, since his heyday probably didn't start until 15 years after Stalin died. But yeah, Americans were good at weightlifting in the 40s and 50s including the big guys, so if he liked wrestling he was probably looking at the WLers too. And Russia was definitely a powerhouse by the 70s, which means development had to start sometime earlier.

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    Big, in terms of "the times" I can envision paranoia. I cannot understand, however, find justification for mass murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    Big, in terms of "the times" I can envision paranoia. I cannot understand, however, find justification for mass murder.
    Can you find justification in Hiroshima and Nagasaaki? If your answer is it was done to save more casualties, in Stalin's eyes by eliminating threats he was saving Soviet people and Nation.

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    Okay, you got a point. Not to justify either though.

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