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Old 03-26-2008, 11:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Americans owe a staggering $1.1 trillion on home equity loans — and banks are increasingly worried they may not get some of that money back.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/bu...hp&oref=slogin

Perhaps financial freedom is not the best thing for people.
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Americans owe $1.1 trillion on home equity loans

Good point.

By definition, a competitve (capitalistic) economy has winners and losers.

The less losers a society can stomache is directly proportionate to how socialistic the society will be.

I think America is becoming more socialistics each year.

As a society, Americans hate seeing poor and homeless people.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Americans owe $1.1 trillion on home equity loans

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Americans owe a staggering $1.1 trillion on home equity loans — and banks are increasingly worried they may not get some of that money back.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/bu...hp&oref=slogin

Perhaps financial freedom is not the best thing for people.
The banks truly ought to be worried that they won't get their money back. Here in California, home equity loans and refis have been a way of life for many years, and people have lived above their means, betting that the housing market would always go up.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Americans owe $1.1 trillion on home equity loans

Here in New York many creative minds came up with clever commercials on TV every 15 minutes to lure people into taking out home equity loans.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I think I am going to move back in with my folks and let them worry about it.
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Americans owe $1.1 trillion on home equity loans

Originally Posted by Ground&Pound View Post
Good point.

By definition, a competitve (capitalistic) economy has winners and losers.

The less losers a society can stomache is directly proportionate to how socialistic the society will be.

I think America is becoming more socialistics each year.

As a society, Americans hate seeing poor and homeless people.
No definition exists that declares there must be winners and losers in a capitalistic economy. In fact, the opposite is true!! A market is made when willing sellers meet willing buyers. A transaction is made when seller and buyer agree -- thus each party gets what he wants. By definition, a market economy is full of winners and has NO losers!

I do believe that America was becoming more socialistic, but I think that may be making a turn-around. People are understanding that government is slow, inefficient, and a poor money manager. They see that the government can't run a retirement plan like Social Security nearly as well as they can run their own IRAs. They see that airlines and phone service have become more affordable and have more options after deregulation. They also seem to want more control over themselves and a larger say in how their own lives turn out -- so they want less government intrusion into their lives.

I'm not really worried about home equity loan debt, though. The possible worry here is that if someone sold his home, he may not have enough money to pay off his mortgage AND the loan. But many borrowers pay off the loan before selling anyhow, so Big's article makes a mountain out of a molehil. That article was just another example of New York Times sensationalism. That paper is looking and reading more and more like a tabloid and a lot less like an actual newspaper.
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Default Re: Americans owe $1.1 trillion on home equity loans

Big, you can bet those bankers are worried--and the investors behind them.

The Fed is stepping forward with a plan to step of regulation of shady loan practices. Hurray for the Fed. The article doesn't give any history, but predatory lending has been going on for a little more than a decade, and both the states and feds have made somewhat token efforts to regulate since then--always after significant damage had been done to homeowners. Now we see the damage is really widespread so it didn't affect just poor, retired and working people, but investor bottom lines. At that point, the government finally determined real action is needed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080327/..._credit_crisis
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Default Re: Americans owe $1.1 trillion on home equity loans

What are the home equity loan numbers from Pravda in the Soviet Union?

Oh, I'm sorry-I meant Russia.
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: Americans owe $1.1 trillion on home equity loans

Originally Posted by Big View Post
Here in New York many creative minds came up with clever commercials on TV every 15 minutes to lure people into taking out home equity loans.
Isnt that true of ALL advertising?
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Default Re: Americans owe $1.1 trillion on home equity loans

Originally Posted by Big View Post
Americans owe a staggering $1.1 trillion on home equity loans — and banks are increasingly worried they may not get some of that money back.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/bu...hp&oref=slogin

Perhaps financial freedom is not the best thing for people.
I wonder what the percentage of Russians is who own their own homes or as in most cases apartments. I am guessing it is a very small percentage.

Just what the USA needs, a Russian to lecture Americans about how too much freedom is a bad thing.
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