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    When I lived in Russia every breed used to have its own show. Certain qualities related to each particular breed were established and the winner of that breed would be determined. I had a King size poodle and he won some medals at shows and I was there. He competed only against other poodles of his color and size.

    In America it seems all kinds of dogs are put together and the winner miraculously emerges. Can someone explain this to me?

    It is the same as if at Olympics all wrestlers of all different weight classes and styles were put in one weight class and they would compete to determine the winner. Am I wrong?

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    What you're seeing is the best in show competition. The best of breed stuff happens usually earlier in the day. They also usually have a sub group in each breed for the the best female (usually termed best of opposite sex). The females do compete against the males in the best of breed competition.

    There's usually three different levels in a dog show. Breed competition, Group competition and then best in show.

    Groups are: Sporting, working, non-sporting, terrier and toy...I may be forgetting one.

    Go to the AKC's website and it'll list what breeds are in what groups.

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    btw, in best in show they're not being judged against one another per se. They are being judged to see which of all of the group winners comes the closest to perfection based on their breed's standard. As in anything judged like that it's a very subjective process, which is why best of breed is still a very prestigious thing at shows like Westminster and Crufts.

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    They never show best of breed competitions. At least not the ones I see. Its always some weird looking dog declared the winner of all breeds.

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    you forgot the herding group i think. i love dogs, but am not a big show person myself. i'd rather see which dog works the best and actually does the things the standard says it should do. it is insane, they say these dogs are great, but at these dog shows the dogs don't even have to be housebroken. I also hate that some of these breeders actually want their dogs to be nervous so that they run in a big circle and prance better. They bred the character right out of strong breeds. i guess i'll stop there before my rant goes on for two pages or more.

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    In Russia anybody that had a dog with documents could bring him to a show for free. The official would check out each dog to make sure it was pure breed and healthy and then pick those that were allowed for a show. Is that how it is in America?

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    There are entry fees. Certain orgs. will only recognize evaluations from their judges. In the case of a German Shepherd, some people want their dog to be recognized by the Germans and need to pay for plane tickets, etc. to get the right person over to judge their dog, and this cost $$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _SL_ View Post
    you forgot the herding group i think. i love dogs, but am not a big show person myself. i'd rather see which dog works the best and actually does the things the standard says it should do. it is insane, they say these dogs are great, but at these dog shows the dogs don't even have to be housebroken. I also hate that some of these breeders actually want their dogs to be nervous so that they run in a big circle and prance better. They bred the character right out of strong breeds. i guess i'll stop there before my rant goes on for two pages or more.

    I couldn't agree more about how field trials are way more interesting and gives a better impression of a dog than some beauty contest. When I was a kid my dad took me to a retriever trial and those dogs are amazing the way they work with their owner/handler.

    I guess I'm just a fan of the sporting, working and herding breeds because they actually have a purpose and it's possible to find breeders who still breed for that purpose.

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