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Thread: Does the GOP have a serious issue with voter turnout?

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    Default Re: Does the GOP have a serious issue with voter turnout?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts
    Don't you think there are large numbers of voters on either side of the aisle that will never vote for the "other side" in a Presidential election? Or are Democrats free-thinkers that don't care about stuff like party affiliation?
    Yes, I think there are about 20% (don't hold me to that number--could be higher) on either side who are assured to vote for that party. So the battle is over the 60% of the electorate in the middle who can swing either way.

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    Default Re: Does the GOP have a serious issue with voter turnout?

    I don't see how anyone infers GOP apathy from essentially a one-horse race primary. Wait until the general election and then see who didn't vote. Traditionally: younger people and poorer people. I'm sure there is a correlation with the level of education too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    Yes, I think there are about 20% (don't hold me to that number--could be higher) on either side who are assured to vote for that party. So the battle is over the 60% of the electorate in the middle who can swing either way.

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    I agree with you Clone. I was challenging Slayer's assumption here:

    one thing though, and this was always going to be the case; the republicans will 100% support McBush,

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    Default Re: Does the GOP have a serious issue with voter turnout?

    I know. I was just providing support for your argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    I know. I was just providing support for your argument.
    Oh, ok. I'm not used to people agreeing with me here, so it threw me off.

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    Default Re: Does the GOP have a serious issue with voter turnout?

    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    I don't see how anyone infers GOP apathy from essentially a one-horse race primary. Wait until the general election and then see who didn't vote. Traditionally: younger people and poorer people. I'm sure there is a correlation with the level of education too.
    It certainly wasn't a one horse race before February 5th with Romney, McCain, and Huckabee all getting fairly significant votes in New Hampshire. On February 5th Huckabee won 3 states, Romney 2 and McCain 4. Not exactly a one horse race and yet GOP total turnout was significantly lower than Dem.

    I agree that it may not mean much in November, however if I'm a GOP guy I'm certainly worrying a little about just how much of the independent voter block we've lost because of W.

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    Do you people actually think that the republicans won't coalesce around McCain? Of course they will. The don't want a democrat in the WH. They loathe that idea.

    I'm talking about the FACT that there are less republicans than there were 8 years ago. George Bush has alienated scores of them. They are gone folks. They aren't coming back in your lifetime most likely.

    You can also count on the fact that more 18-35 year olds will indeed vote in November. It may not be a huge number, but it will most likely be near a record level for that demographic.

    Ask any reasonable republican insider (yes, there are some of those) and they will tell you that November looks really bad for them. Their only hope is a very negative campaign and Clinton/Obama will fight back a lot harder than Gore or Kerry did.

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    Do you people actually think that the republicans won't coalesce around McCain? Of course they will. The don't want a democrat in the WH. They loathe that idea.

    Substitute "democrats" for "republicans", and "Obama" for "McCain", and the sentence is just as true.

    It seems that you think the democrats are free-thinking intellectuals who evaluate both candidates fully, and just happen to choose the democrat candidate. On the other hand, the republicans do whatever Rush tells them, and automatically vote republican.

    If I take a walk tomorrow through Berkeley, Oakland, or San Francisco and ask the locals who they are going to vote for, how many McCain votes am I going to get? Do you think those people were all on the fence previously, but just now coalesced around Obama? No, they are going to vote for whomever the D candidate is.

    The democrats aren't any smarter or more pure than the republicans, they just think they are. Morons exist on both sides of the aisle.

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