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    Default Steve Schmidt, McCain Campaign Manager: Religion Could Kill The GOP

    by Sam Stein

    Speaking publicly for one of the first times since the end of the presidential campaign, John McCain's campaign manager Steve Schmidt painted a dire portrait of the state of the Republican Party, arguing that the GOP has largely been co-opted by its religious elements.

    "If you put public policy issues to a religious test, you risk becoming a religious party," Schmidt declared. "And in a free country, a political party cannot be viable in the long term if it is seen as a sectarian party."

    The remarks came in a passionate, roughly 20-minute speech before the Log Cabin Republican's national convention, in which Schmidt laid out the case for a far more open party -- one which did not consider gay marriage to be a "litmus test" issue. And while he made it a purpose not to offend social conservatives -- they "remain an indispensable part of the Republican coalition," he said -- Schmidt did not hide his concerns that religion had become the predominant thread of the GOP.

    "If you reject [gay marriage] on religious grounds, I respect that," he said. "I respect anyone's religious views. However, religious views should not inform the public policy positions of a political party because... when it is a religious party, many people who would otherwise be members of that party are excluded from it because of a religious belief system that may be different. And the Republican Party ought not to be that. It ought to be a coalition of people under a big tent."...........

    ...........Indeed, the shrinking of the GOP tent, he prophesied, was due not to one individual actor but from a quasi-religious political brand that was "off-putting to many people." That held true whether in the case of Terry Schaivo, which Schmidt called "disastrous for the Republican Party," or gay marriage.

    "If a party is seen as anti-gay than that is injurious to its candidates in states like California, Oregon or Washington or New Jersey or New York, increasingly even in states like Virginia and the mid-south," he said. "And to be a national party we need to be competitive in the northeast, for instance. I will argue that our party was a richer party when we had people, by no means conservatives but republicans, like Christie Whitman and George Pataki and all the members of Congress who have since gone extinct."


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    Interesting point. I've never really understood how so many people can have one issue (i.e. gay marriage, abortion, etc.) determine their political ideology but then again, it is America.....
    Your ignorance is painful to witness.....

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    It's already killed the GOP.

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    I think the "I hate everyone but me" element has seriously damaged the party. It's not just religion (there are many in the GOP who are irreligious (if that's a word)), and many religious people have nothing to do with the GOP.

    With respect to Schmidt's remarks, consider who he was talking to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    I think the "I hate everyone but me" element has seriously damaged the party. It's not just religion (there are many in the GOP who are irreligious (if that's a word)), and many religious people have nothing to do with the GOP.

    With respect to Schmidt's remarks, consider who he was talking to.
    Absolutely. The liberal party is just so intollerant and hateful to the religious people. It is unreal. Look at how the attacked Palin and her family. Whoa!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctc View Post
    Absolutely. The liberal party is just so intollerant and hateful to the religious people. It is unreal. Look at how the attacked Palin and her family. Whoa!!!
    And yet, when you get right down to it..... every single liberal politician except one Muslim.... is a proclaimed Christian. So it would appear to be a war amongst yourselves. Or it would be a situation where God is a conservative Republican. Or a situation where God is a conservative "social" Republican. And even the other Republicans who make up the Republican are suspect because they do not tow the social conservative party line.

    Which is the point Schmidt makes. The Republican Party is a bit of a mess and at war with itself. History repeats itself because that is exactly what took down the Democratic Party in the early 90's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbig View Post
    religion had become the predominant thread of the GOP.
    One of the major reasons why I went third party back in November.

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    every single liberal politician except one Muslim.... is a proclaimed Christian.- sgallan

    Sorry, I don't buy it. It is politically expedient to be a "Christian". The first thing a politician does when he moves into a town is to join the biggest church in town. Most care absolutely zilch for the things of Christ. Obama himself, a professing Christian that I think of as a psuedo-Christian, cares nothing about what Jesus says. Now that he is president, he doesn't even go to church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctc View Post
    every single liberal politician except one Muslim.... is a proclaimed Christian.- sgallan

    Sorry, I don't buy it. It is politically expedient to be a "Christian". The first thing a politician does when he moves into a town is to join the biggest church in town. Most care absolutely zilch for the things of Christ. Obama himself, a professing Christian that I think of as a psuedo-Christian, cares nothing about what Jesus says. Now that he is president, he doesn't even go to church.

    4: And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
    I am not doubting that many politician declare their faith as Christians for political purposes, but this is often becasue no matter what many voters will not vote for an atheist or agnostic.

    Finally, who are you to judge calling Obama and others psuedo-Christian?

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