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    Hitler was a lot different to Stalin, and i do not necassarily dislike Hitler either. I find him a very interesting world leader.

    Stalin did not intentionally kill these people he used them to perform the hard labour to industrialise Russia and thus create progression and which led to Russia's strength during world war 2. Had he not done what he did many more Russians may have died.

    Yes they barely had the arms to fight with, the arms they did have were a direct result of Stalins indsutrialisation, the tanks especially. I think you are massively underestimating the effect Stalins industrialisation had on the out come of world war 2. I personally believe if it were not for this Hitler would have won.

    Israel ahs very recently taken land from the west bank.

    I find America a very restrictive society, Americans ahve very many taboo subjects especially regarding idealogical beliefs, i hear athiests are not trusted in America and that in recent history being a communist resulted in being black listed. Europe seems a lot more free to me. Yet you will never hear Europeans talk about freedom.

    The majority of American aid goes to israel, some for economics reasons some for military reasons. I don't think you can justify it as legitimate aid, i personally believe it is due to jewish lobbys within America.

    Iran did offfer aid, i will not find a link, typing Iran and America into google is a mine field.

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    Hitler was a lot different to Stalin, and i do not necassarily dislike Hitler either. I find him a very interesting world leader.

    Agreed both are very interesting

    Stalin did not intentionally kill these people he used them to perform the hard labour to industrialise Russia and thus create progression and which led to Russia's strength during world war 2. Had he not done what he did many more Russians may have died.

    Those work camps including those after WW2 in Siberia killed millions. When someone is worked to death by force that is the same as shooting them. The only difference is you got some done. Hitler had work camps too where people worked and contributed to the war effort and were worked to death.

    Yes they barely had the arms to fight with, the arms they did have were a direct result of Stalins indsutrialisation, the tanks especially. I think you are massively underestimating the effect Stalins industrialisation had on the out come of world war 2. I personally believe if it were not for this Hitler would have won.

    I'm not questioning Stalins industrialsation when it comes to the war and after the war. I am questioning the way it was done and the others he killed. I personally believe Hitler would have been defeated either way. The Russians are a proud people and would have continued to fight. In addition i believe they would have ended up losing the war in the West as well.

    Israel ahs very recently taken land from the west bank.

    Was this after they gave the land back and the terrorist attacks on Israel stepped up? Not being a smartass actually want to know.

    I find America a very restrictive society, Americans ahve very many taboo subjects especially regarding idealogical beliefs, i hear athiests are not trusted in America and that in recent history being a communist resulted in being black listed. Europe seems a lot more free to me. Yet you will never hear Europeans talk about freedom.

    I wouldn't say that America is a restrictive society. I have friens that are athiest, christians, and Jews. There are a lot of athiest in America. Now during the cold war there were communist here and those working with the USSR were blacklisted. We were essentially at war with the USSR so that only makes sense. However, there are a lot of different idiologies here.

    I don't know why you don't hear Europeans talk about freedom as much as the U.S. I have my theory but nothing to back it up. My guess is that Europeans have been established nations for centuries more than the US. Only a guess though. Another is that Freedom is very important to us, i can only speak for myself on this and those i know.

    The majority of American aid goes to israel, some for economics reasons some for military reasons. I don't think you can justify it as legitimate aid, i personally believe it is due to jewish lobbys within America.

    Why can't you justify it as legitimate aid?

    Iran did offfer aid, i will not find a link, typing Iran and America into google is a mine field.

    I looked for it too but couldn't find it.

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    Chance i think you underestimate the mess Russia was in, Stalin literally tripled the out put of Russia, he did a lot of colonisation of the east. Which ultimately led to Russia building taks in the East and then fighting with them in the west, a strategy that was key in Russia winning.

    Fighting with no tanks and no guns equals dying very easily, the Russians would have taken massive loss then surrendered they are not robots. A series of events led to Russia destroying so much of Germany's army and many of these events are thanks to Stalin.

    Israel gave land in the Gaza strip to palestinians, this took all the front pages, then they stole more land from the west bank, which got a tiny article on page ten.

    I think in America they have lots of freedoms but their is some odd ideology about freedom, democracy, soldier whorship, and patriotism. It really suprised me to find all the children have to salture the flag and swear allegiance, reminds me of soemthing North Korea would do.

    I think Europe has more freedom than America, although i do quite like some American social systems.

    I don;t think giving arms can be describesd as charity or aid.

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    Caspiantiger is making some very interesting points on here I have NOT heard from anyone my whole time living in America. It is truly amazing how many similarities even Nazi Germany has with America as far as LITTLE THINGS go. When I was in high school we had to get up every day and give allegiance to the country. Pretty tyrannical if you ask me. "I pledge my allegiance to this nation under God, for what it stands, indivisible and with justice for all" I mean we were kids. What if we didn't like this country or had other thoughts? We couldn't leave since our families lived here. And we were not old enough to understand things for ourselves.
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    Nazi Germany is everyone's boogeyman. Don't like someone, compare 'em to Hitler, no matter how thin the connection. Someone will fall for it. There are mainstream books in bookstores with this theme. Someone will fall for it. Some would rather hate than think.

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    Nazi Germany is the epitome of what happens when one Nation says it was made to rule the World.

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