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    Ugly, that means, if he gets the nomination, and Obama gets the nomination, McCain will have some advantage in terms of color.

    I don't mean to make a big deal of this, but a lot of white Americans are in total denial on race issues.

    I hear over and over this idea (from pundits) that Obama is more electable than Clinton (because she's been pilloried so long by the right). But I frankly think it's the other way around. The only people who really don't like Clinton are the talk radio crowd (a minority). They're going to vote Republican no matter what. But I think she still has broad appeal to independents. On the other hand, if Obama is elected, I predict some white people who usually don't vote (there are a lot of people, mostly on the poorer and less educated end of things, who don't vote in each election) will--and it won't be for him. I haven't heard anyone else express this point of view. It's mine for better or worse.

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    Ugly & Clone, what's going on in Colorado? I thought it was a red state, but according to CNN, 119,184 people voted for Democratic presidential candidates and only 55,845 for Republican candidates.
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    Well Clone I think that is a total load of bull . I think a lot of minorities make too much of race. And look what you have done you have given yourself an out. So if Obama loses to McCain you can say its because the whites don't want a black in office and they are racist. This is crap and I cant believe you would say that here. So what would your excuse be if Clinton looses because she is white and has blond hair.

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    Default Re: There is a good explanation as to why McCain is the leader for Republican nomination

    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieJ2 View Post
    Ugly, what's going on in Colorado? I thought it was a red state, but according to CNN, 119,184 people voted for Democratic presidential candidates and only 55,845 for Republican candidates.
    Boulder is a huge liberal pocket in Colorado. They come out in droves to vote but the state is a red state.

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    Many white people feel they don't want a black President because black people were brought to America as slaves and now a black President would give them a whole new reason to have a heightened sense of identity and entitlement. Say what you want but that is the truth.

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    "On the other hand, if Obama is elected, I predict some white people who usually don't vote (there are a lot of people, mostly on the poorer and less educated end of things, who don't vote in each election) will--and it won't be for him."

    Explain Idaho then, please. 79% for Obama, 17% for Clinton.
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    But I'm not a minority, am I? So why are you slamming them, Ugly? I'm a person of privilege, so you can't marginalize my opinion so easily. No, I'm not looking for any kind of out. Stop fantasizing about my motives. And I said nothing about swinging the election. I'm just putting out there that race is a factor. It could be marginal, but it's a factor. Like I said, a lot of people are in denial.

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    Bonnie, Idaho can be explained because it was a primary, no? Democrats voting for Democrats.

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    No, Colorado is not a red state. While it's true there are more registered Republicans, Senate, House, and Presidential races can and have gone both ways.

    There was a far greater Democratic turnout there, as with other states I imagine, because there is more interest in that race. Come general election time, there won't be such a disparity.

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